4-3-3

[SKII]

The formation today was an interesting one and something that I felt contributed to some of our downfall (other than the blummin' obvious pair of numpties making mistakes )

It looked very much like a 4-3-3 most of the time with Sproule and Zemmama pushed up and the trio of Stewart, Thomson and Beuzelin in the middle.

What did other people make of it? Is it the way forward for us? Did we cope with the issues it throws up in terms of defending?

Should we use it against THEM?

FWIW I hope we go back to a more conventional 4-4-2 on Wednesday with Killen and Brown back in.

To do that Fletcher is an obvious drop - but who would you lose from midfield to accomodate Scott? Quite something to ponder...

[HibeePaddy]

Orite so we were playing 4-4-3 is that why the goalkeeper was missing at the second goal

[Greenmachine]

It seemed like five across the middle to me from Hibs. Too many players want to play the holding midfield job. Stewart, Thomson, and Boozy were basically performing the same role. Nothing like enough support to Fletcher who is just not suited to the lone striker role. Zemmama and Sproule played very well, but Killie just crowded them out for most of the game.

I thought Zemmama was trying to do his own usual game, and Scott Brown's as well. He played very well, but had too much to do I thought.

The balance is still not right in the team, but I am confident John Collins knows what has to be done.

[Bartok]

Y'know I cannae really comment since I did not see the game... but in terms of playing to strengths I see the 4-3-3 format as a potential winner for us.

[Bogie]

We could play 0-0-11 & have a f*ckin' chance if we FINALLY get rid of that Polish clown Zibi! I honestly think that my dead Grandad, who was a hard-core Hibee, would make Jones & Martis far more relaxed knowin' that a stiff is in goal & not that clown! Jokin' aside now, honestly, how many more points can this ar*e-hole cost us!? It's way past bein' even slightly funny. He's had many a chance & everytime he's f*cked it big time! I totally respect John Collins but if he doesn't empty that freak show then I'll lose it as quick as it came. Mr Collins looks smart & if he lives the Hibs like all of us he'll do something about this knob! Sorry Zibi, no hard feelings but enough is enough. I've never slated a Hibee before, not even Houchen, but you are Sunday league at the very best pal. In fact, you're not even close to a fat Jakey shot stopper. Please, either go to West Brom & hook up with the only boss who saw something in you or hit KFC as I hear they're lookin' for staff. Just don't drop the chicken. (P.S) Did you get into the game by sleepin' with a goalie?!

[Bartok]

Originally Posted by Bogie

We could play 0-0-11 & have a f*ckin' chance if we FINALLY get rid of that Polish clown Zibi! I honestly think that my dead Grandad, who was a hard-core Hibee, would make Jones & Martis far more relaxed knowin' that a stiff is in goal & not that clown! Jokin' aside now, honestly, how many more points can this ar*e-hole cost us!? It's way past bein' even slightly funny. He's had many a chance & everytime he's f*cked it big time! I totally respect John Collins but if he doesn't empty that freak show then I'll lose it as quick as it came. Mr Collins looks smart & if he lives the Hibs like all of us he'll do something about this knob! Sorry Zibi, no hard feelings but enough is enough. I've never slated a Hibee before, not even Houchen, but you are Sunday league at the very best pal. In fact, you're not even close to a fat Jakey shot stopper. Please, either go to West Brom & hook up with the only boss who saw something in you or hit KFC as I hear they're lookin' for staff. Just don't drop the chicken. (P.S) Did you get into the game by sleepin' with a goalie?!

You post like an under-18 but remember Houchen? Have patience pal, it's all coming your way.

[©stretch]

Originally Posted by Greenmachine

It seemed like five across the middle to me from Hibs. Too many players want to play the holding midfield job. Stewart, Thomson, and Boozy were basically performing the same role. Nothing like enough support to Fletcher who is just not suited to the lone striker role. Zemmama and Sproule played very well, but Killie just crowded them out for most of the game.

I thought Zemmama was trying to do his own usual game, and Scott Brown's as well. He played very well, but had too much to do I thought.

The balance is still not right in the team, but I am confident John Collins knows what has to be done.

Totally agree,re the holding midfielders. I also thought that Fletcher (who I rate big time) did not make enough runs in to channels yesterday,something he'll have to learn quickly, if he wants to be a regular in the side. And he'll also need to learn to get upper body strengh to hold up the ball.


I think on Wednesday. Stewart, and Thomson, should just stay in midfield, and let Brown, and Boozy, break from midfield into the box. I would drop Zemamma, even although he played well yesterday for Brown, and see how things develope regarding Browns attitude. Because we know the gunts are going to try and wind him up.

Or do I drop Sproule and play Zemamma? Bring Sproule on later against a tired gunts defence? Who would be a manager eh? :YAYYY:

[blue toon hibby]

Originally Posted by ©stretch

Totally agree,re the holding midfielders. I also thought that Fletcher (who I rate big time) did not make enough runs in to channels yesterday,something he'll have to learn quickly, if he wants to be a regular in the side. And he'll also need to learn to get upper body strengh to hold up the ball.


I think on Wednesday. Stewart, and Thomson, should just stay in midfield, and let Brown, and Boozy, break from midfield into the box. I would drop Zemamma, even although he played well yesterday for Brown, and see how things develope regarding Browns attitude. Because we know the gunts are going to try and wind him up.

Or do I drop Sproule and play Zemamma? Bring Sproule on later against a tired gunts defence? Who would be a manager eh? :YAYYY:

Aye you have some tough decisions to make before Wednesday, big fella! Personally I would not drop Sproule after yesterday's performance - I thought his workrate was terrific, tracking back as well as running at the defence - and he looked as though he still had fuel in the tank at full time. Had Killen played yesterday, it would have been a different story IMHO.

I agree WRT Fletcher - too easily knocked of the ball and seems to wait for the perfect ball to be delivered instead of attacking it. I would go with your first option - Zemmama on the bench, Boozy and Brown as attacking midfielders. If Scotty overheats or Boozy tires, bring on the wee man.

[alnewhaven]

I don't think the 4-5-1 suits Fletch, he's not got the physical presence of Killen (or previously O'Connor), so I would have gone 4-4-2, with Deano, Sproule or Benji up front with him. Or maybe put Brown up front with him on Wednesday?

Midfield-wise, I thought that Boozy (understandably) was taking time to settle alongside Stewart and Thomson, but encouraging signs of what that trio can produce once 100%.

[©stretch]

Originally Posted by blue toon hibby

Aye you have some tough decisions to make before Wednesday, big fella! Personally I would not drop Sproule after yesterday's performance - I thought his workrate was terrific, tracking back as well as running at the defence - and he looked as though he still had fuel in the tank at full time. Had Killen played yesterday, it would have been a different story IMHO.

I agree WRT Fletcher - too easily knocked of the ball and seems to wait for the perfect ball to be delivered instead of attacking it. I would go with your first option - Zemmama on the bench, Boozy and Brown as attacking midfielders. If Scotty overheats or Boozy tires, bring on the wee man.

I'll put my thoughts to Mr Collins tomorrow.

[ct01]

I would think that Boozy would be dropped for Wednesday given his limited contribution yesterday and the fact he is lacking match sharpness badly. I would go for a Killen/Sproule front two as we would have strength and pace up top with Brown right and Zemmama left of a four man midfield. Thomson doing the sitting in job while Stewart does what he does best and covers the ground from box to box. That imo is our best midfield by some distance and the correct balance. We can afford one flair player in our side perhaps at one time, yesterday there was two which gave the incentive to a hardworking Kilmarnock midfield.

[Dub]

Originally Posted by ©stretch

Totally agree,re the holding midfielders. I also thought that Fletcher (who I rate big time) did not make enough runs in to channels yesterday,something he'll have to learn quickly, if he wants to be a regular in the side. And he'll also need to learn to get upper body strengh to hold up the ball.

I think on Wednesday. Stewart, and Thomson, should just stay in midfield, and let Brown, and Boozy, break from midfield into the box. I would drop Zemamma, even although he played well yesterday for Brown, and see how things develope regarding Browns attitude. Because we know the gunts are going to try and wind him up.

Or do I drop Sproule and play Zemamma? Bring Sproule on later against a tired gunts defence? Who would be a manager eh? :YAYYY:

Agreed on the comments you make. I reckon if killen had been available to play the game would have turned out differently, there were a few balls put into channels where killen would have been running but Fletch wasnt and I reckon killen would have scored on that one-on-one with the goalie as well. Like you I rate Fletcher but think that "lone striker" isnt his role, maybe he was forced into it through lack of other choices but it doesnt suit him yet.

What about these boots benji, yer gonnae have to get him telt stretch. Good luck with the team selection.

[Greenmachine]

Originally Posted by ct01

I would think that Boozy would be dropped for Wednesday given his limited contribution yesterday and the fact he is lacking match sharpness badly. I would go for a Killen/Sproule front two as we would have strength and pace up top with Brown right and Zemmama left of a four man midfield. Thomson doing the sitting in job while Stewart does what he does best and covers the ground from box to box. That imo is our best midfield by some distance and the correct balance. We can afford one flair player in our side perhaps at one time, yesterday there was two which gave the incentive to a hardworking Kilmarnock midfield.

Good post. I agree with you regarding the balance of the midfield. The formation and personnel you suggest would be mine as well for Wednesday.