Hibs Support

[HibeeFraz]

If we were in the same position as Hearts just now, winning the scottish cup, finishing second, getting into the champions league, having a big rich owner. Do you think we would be able to pile in as much fans as hearts 28,500 into Murrayfeild or another scottish venue for a Champions League game ?

[joe_hfc]

well out of 28500 only about 25000 will be hearts fans and if it was us we could fill about 30000-35000 hibees

[Seven Tattoos]

No. Like it or not, they are better supported than us. That's just a fact. They're the Edinburgh team, we're the Leith team. They're the 'Proddie' team, we're the 'fenian' team. On both counts (wrongly perceived or otherwise) we're in the minority. But we're the moral minority, we're the good guys. Not sad, dull, unimaginative w@nks like them.

Seriously though, given our pitiful turn-out at the cup semi and our very disappointing home gate on Saturday we really have no right to mock their attendances. They actually shame us.

And it hurts me to have to admit that.

[joe_hfc]

Originally Posted by Seven Tattoos

No. Like it or not, they are better supported than us. That's just a fact. They're the Edinburgh team, we're the Leith team. They're the 'Proddie' team, we're the 'fenian' team. On both counts (wrongly perceived or otherwise) we're in the minority. But we're the moral minority, we're the good guys. Not sad, dull, unimaginative w@nks like them.

Seriously though, given our pitiful turn-out at the cup semi and our very disappointing home gate on Saturday we really have no right to mock their attendances. They actually shame us.

And it hurts me to have to admit that.

from what i always remember we have had the bigger support...everytime you go up town you see more hibs tops than hearts tops. and before romonov came we always had higher home attendances and better away support than them. but since romonov came alot of glory hunters have came out the woodwork for them....sad for them
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[Smurf]

They probably average out at about 15-20% more than us on the respective average gates over the last 20 years.

Quality though not quantity.

[pilrig70]

Who cares who's got the biggest support. Hibs is quality before quantity. And Leith is a much nicer place than Gorgie.

If I lived in Gorgie I'd be at the doctors wanting anti-depressants washed doon with Watermelon Bacardi Breezers...


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[Beagle]

Originally Posted by Seven Tattoos

No. Like it or not, they are better supported than us. That's just a fact. They're the Edinburgh team, we're the Leith team. They're the 'Proddie' team, we're the 'fenian' team. On both counts (wrongly perceived or otherwise) we're in the minority. But we're the moral minority, we're the good guys. Not sad, dull, unimaginative w@nks like them.

Seriously though, given our pitiful turn-out at the cup semi and our very disappointing home gate on Saturday we really have no right to mock their attendances. They actually shame us.

And it hurts me to have to admit that.

Fair enough points but I take exception to being labelled a fenian.
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I have been a Hibby all my life and born a 'proddy' as you put it.
The last time I heard myself being called a 'fenian' was when some drunken hun knuckledragger punched me in the face on London Road en-route to Easter Road years ago, just because I was wearing green & white tinsel heading to the match (xmas time)
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Even tough my left eye was shut I still saw us hump them
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[marc-the-hibee]

we could take alot more fans than the yams to murrayfield

remember how many fans we took to the cis cup final(not a game to remember) we could have filled the ground our selfs

[Seven Tattoos]

Beagle - I apologise for any offence caused, but I can assure you none was intended. The apostrophes round the words 'Proddie' and 'fenian' and the parentheses which emphasised 'wrongly perceived' was my way of stressing that that's how some see hertz and Hibs. It was not meant to be taken as how I see hertz and Hibs.

Also, can I emphasise that I too am a 'Proddie'. Possibly it's my west coast upbringing, but I use these terms ironically. The knuckledraggers you refer to, like Baldrick in 'Blackadder', think irony is a derivative of a metal.

[Beagle]

Originally Posted by Seven Tattoos

Beagle - I apologise for any offence caused, but I can assure you none was intended. The apostrophes round the words 'Proddie' and 'fenian' and the parentheses which emphasised 'wrongly perceived' was my way of stressing that that's how some see hertz and Hibs. It was not meant to be taken as how I see hertz and Hibs.

Also, can I emphasise that I too am a 'Proddie'. Possibly it's my west coast upbringing, but I use these terms ironically. The knuckledraggers you refer to, like Baldrick in 'Blackadder', think irony is a derivative of a metal.

It's ok 7tattoos, it just hits a nerve. Remember I have to live in West Lothian
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[eckmf]

Originally Posted by joe_hfc

from what i always remember we have had the bigger support...everytime you go up town you see more hibs tops than hearts tops. and before romonov came we always had higher home attendances and better away support than them. but since romonov came alot of glory hunters have came out the woodwork for them....sad for them
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utter shecht,the yams have a bigger support than us,always have,as long as I can remember
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[Beagle]

certainly the yams have more fans going to the matches at swiney but the actual worldwide fan base may be more equal.
I think we probably take more than them to away matches but thats just supposition

[Johnny Kash]

Originally Posted by joe_hfc

from what i always remember we have had the bigger support...everytime you go up town you see more hibs tops than hearts tops. and before romonov came we always had higher home attendances and better away support than them. but since romonov came alot of glory hunters have came out the woodwork for them....sad for them
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The Yams do have a bigger support overall, dont think you could argue with that. However, I agree with the comment about more Hibs tops seen about, and would argue that we display our colours at all times regardless of how the team is doing.

Would also be interesting if there were stats on outsiders, i.e. those not born in Edinburgh and which capital team they choose to follow - Im convinced the majority would be Hibs, possibly due to the 'Trainspotting' hype of a few years ago
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[Kenny]

i've always prefered

they're the authority establishment team and we're the workers left wing rebel free thinkers team...

[EK Hibby]

The name gives it away but bread and buttered in East Kilbride. Good point about "outsiders" from Edinburgh. After the CIS final went to local MacDonalds and the place was bouncing with Hibbys especially young ones. There's 10 of us travel week in week out from EK and we know of more.

No doubt we got a massive following but we need to get more into ER every week. Sorry guys but Hampden last year was a sad sight. I thought there'd been a coach pile up on the M8.

Football aint cheap but a great way to spend a Saturday watching entertaining football and good banter.....even in the West Stand!

[pilrig70]

Originally Posted by Kenny

i've always prefered

they're the authority establishment team and we're the workers left wing rebel free thinkers team...

Damn right Kenny.

Heart of Midlothian were even named after a novel by Sir Walter Scott who as every self-respecting Scot should know was a fat Tory bastard, a founder of the Tory party in Scotland even, the Wallace Mercer of his day, who was also the Brit stooge who demanded that the heroes of Scotland's 1820 Insurrection against British rule be executed - as they were.

Walter Scott was the man who organised Fat King Geordie 4's visit in 1822, got him all dolled up in Highland regalia except he added pink tights thereby fixing Heart of Midlothian in the public's eyes with very camp ***ness.

From a literature point of view Walter Scott was the rich man's second-rate Rabbie Burns, whose books are read nowadays by NAEBODY. Cos theyre all shite incarnate.

Respect to the great Scottish martyrs of 1820 beheaded at Stirling Castle: Hardie, Baird and Wilson. But may Walter Scott rot in hell beside the aformenthioned FJB.

Heart of Midlothian my erse.

Erin's finest.
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[Tully]

Originally Posted by HibeeFraz

If we were in the same position as Hearts just now, winning the scottish cup, finishing second, getting into the champions league, having a big rich owner. Do you think we would be able to pile in as much fans as hearts 28,500 into Murrayfeild or another scottish venue for a Champions League game ?

only in the qualifiers
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no chance of making the group stages

[HailHail]

growing up in livi there was the "hibs are the taigs, hearts are the huns" kinda thing going on, though it was mostly old firm fans who rarely if at all went to games who made the assumption. In a lot of ways they were right about hearts.

[Tully]

Originally Posted by HailHail

growing up in livi there was the "hibs are the taigs, hearts are the huns" kinda thing going on, though it was mostly old firm fans who rarely if at all went to games who made the assumption. In a lot of ways they were right about hearts.

thats exactly what its like in broxburn now

[HailHail]

Originally Posted by Tully

thats exactly what its like in broxburn now

I suppose that stops the broxburn yams feeling left out when the gala day comes up so they can do their thang with their ibrox brethren. Same can be said of the "hearts loyal" crew from deans . try walking into rabs bar wearing green and white
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[SlovSam]

The difference in 'true' support between Hearts and Hibs isn't actually quite as much as the Jambo's would like you to think.

On a 30 year basis from 1976 to date Hearts average attendance levels out at 12,188 whereas Hibs comes in at a 30 year average of 10,275 which is very respectable.
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given Hibs historical beginnings.

Neither side have had any success in these years hence the figures are quite a fair reflection of the number of genuine rather than glory seeking fans each club have.

It also shows that these weary stereotypes of Leith,Edinburgh,proddy, Kafflick, establishment or left wing are now confiined to historical myths as you have to be a pretty broad church to support these numbers.

I'm actually amazed that in 2006 people still talk in these terms but there you go that's a debate for another day.
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[Seven Tattoos]

Well said, Slovsam. Deluded kantz think they're 'BIG', about as 'BIG' as a pygmy's bawsac.