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[BoomtownHibeys]

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

Aye but anyone who watches him play will see that he rarely performs. Couldnt care less what the stats say it is a fact he rarely performs well. Thats when he's actually able to play.

Well he must be doing something right, stats dont lie. Hes maybe a Neil Lennon sort of player. I think Lennon is gash but Celtic hardly win without him

[GloryGlory]

Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

Well he must be doing something right, stats dont lie. Hes maybe a Neil Lennon sort of player. I think Lennon is gash but Celtic hardly win without him

The stats dont say Stewart makes a difference. Its just a case of games we have won when he's been there and games we've lost when he hasnt. I bet if we all watched the videos of those games maybe 3 or 4 times we'd say he'd been key to getting the win. If people want to take that as Mikey Stewart is a vital part of the team then fine but imo and that of many others who watch him every week he does not perform. He's possibly our most inconsistent player.

[BoomtownHibeys]

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

The stats dont say Stewart makes a difference. Its just a case of games we have won when he's been there and games we've lost when he hasnt. I bet if we all watched the videos of those games maybe 3 or 4 times we'd say he'd been key to getting the win. If people want to take that as Mikey Stewart is a vital part of the team then fine but imo and that of many others who watch him every week he does not perform. He's possibly our most inconsistent player.

How can you say its just a case of when hes there we win and when hes not, we lose? Surely that means he does something for the team? Im not saying he is Mr Consistent. Im not saying he is our best player. All im saying is he must do something if you look at the stats

[GloryGlory]

Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

How can you say its just a case of when hes there we win and when hes not, we lose? Surely that means he does something for the team? Im not saying he is Mr Consistent. Im not saying he is our best player. All im saying is he must do something if you look at the stats

The stats prove nothing. All they say is we won that day and Stewart was in the team. Maybe they are right and he is vital to the team but from where I sit rarely do I ever see a performance that merits a place in the starting 11. In my first choice 11 Stewart would not be there no matter what the stats say. IMO he does not perform and I cant see how he could be classed as vital to the team.

[BoomtownHibeys]

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

The stats prove nothing. All they say is we won that day and Stewart was in the team. Maybe they are right and he is vital to the team but from where I sit rarely do I ever see a performance that merits a place in the starting 11. In my first choice 11 Stewart would not be there no matter what the stats say. IMO he does not perform and I cant see how he could be classed as vital to the team.

So its all just a coincidence that when hes there we win and when hes no, we lose? The stats also say that about Scott Brown. Bet you thin that means we need him in the team

[Shearer]

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

Aye but anyone who watches him play will see that he rarely performs. Couldnt care less what the stats say it is a fact he rarely performs well. Thats when he's actually able to play.

Agreed. He is very injury prone, and when he is not injured he is too inconsistent. Good player when he plays at his best, but that has only happened against the OF this season unfortunately
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Very rarely lasts more than 60 minutes.

Not only that, he will be on a decent wage as well. Wages that could have been much, much better spent elsewhere............(*cough*riordan*cough)
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[GloryGlory]

Originally Posted by BoomtownHibeys

So its all just a coincidence that when hes there we win and when hes no, we lose? The stats also say that about Scott Brown. Bet you thin that means we need him in the team

Not at all. I know from watching Scott Brown that he benefits the team. With Brown you can clearly see his contribution but with Stewart we are relying on stats to find out he actually does something.

[BoomtownHibeys]

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

Not at all. I know from watching Scott Brown that he benefits the team. With Brown you can clearly see his contribution but with Stewart we are relying on stats to find out he actually does something.

I agreed to an extent that he doesnt stand out like the likes of Brown and Thomo but you never see Neil Lennon standing out. As i said earlier, i think Lennon is rank but Celtic need him in their team and i think Mikey Stewart could be the same for us

[mod4ever]

the fans seem to be backing the club with record season ticket sales all knowing that deek could leave us i think this speaks volumes that we believe that what ever happens the team is our only concern if we had no faith we would not be going back these sales may clinch several players futures (sorry for the grammer)

[Greenman]

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Originally Posted by Bob1875

Dont believe that one.
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There's a silly ass
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[Bukta]

Originally Posted by Airghialla Gaiscíoch

well lets leave McArthur out of it for now and concentrate on Riordan.

I would still like to know why there has been no denial from Riordan then about the offer the club claim to have put on the table for him. They say it will make him one of the highest if not the highest paid players at the club.

The offers put on the table by the club for every other player recently have been accepted. If these offers are good enough for Thomson, Brown, Murphy, etc who are every bit as important as Riordan, why is Riordans offer not good enough for him.

If he is being given a deliberately low offer to try and force him out the door and not the offer the club claim, then why not say so?? If it is the offer they claim then why has it not been signed.

I have heard a statement from the club about the offer they have made which I have no reason to doubt. On the other hand all I have heard from Riordan is that he wants to stay, nothing to refute the offer Hibs claim has been made. I want to hear from the horse's mouth so to speak, that the offer is a lie. All he has to do is deny it and he will have the vast majority of fans on his side and the ball will then be firmly back in the clubs court.

I would imagine if the fans found out that the best striker we have had for 30 years or more is being forced out and the club are not trying their level best to keep him there would be an outcry and a sudden drop in ST & merchandise sales until the club started to play ball and made him the proper offer.

If Derek wants to stay at Hibs on the highest wage within the structure then he should be offered it and if he hasn't I like most others will want to know why. If the best we can offer has been made and it is not enough then I guess it is bye bye Derek.

Something isn't right but with only one side of the story how can anybody know. I would like to hear the other side but not from people who claim to have sources

Jamie, quite simply, Derek doesn't speak to the press as such about any of the transfer speculation & he wouldn't like to bad mouth the club even if it were to benefit him.

I mean look at the treament he recd in relation to the Cardiff bid. Derek plays for club v Rangers, goes into see club before he joins up with Scotland, has chat with TM, told everything's fine, enjoy himself with Scotland etc, then reads in the paper next day that a fee's been agreed with Cardiff for him.
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Then he's told to stay away from the ground & get his "head together" and then gets dropped completely from the team.

If he was going to say anything then it would've been then IMO.

I stand to be corrected on the last part though.

[Cal_Hibby_4_Life]

stewart is a great player, leave him alone !

also, great that andy mcneil has got a new contract, can't wait til he gets a start, looks a great goalie !

also, the talk about the riordan situation, i think hibs should give him what he wants! he deserves much more than £700 a week, and deserves to earn more than morrow ! murphy may be on the same deal, but this is the first season he has continuously played first team football, where as deek has played lots, and has been top goalscorer !!!

give him what he wants, don't let the best talent go for free !!!!

[Shearer]

Originally Posted by James Riordan

Jamie, quite simply, Derek doesn't speak to the press as such about any of the transfer speculation & he wouldn't like to bad mouth the club even if it were to benefit him.

I mean look at the treament he recd in relation to the Cardiff bid. Derek plays for club v Rangers, goes into see club before he joins up with Scotland, has chat with TM, told everything's fine, enjoy himself with Scotland etc, then reads in the paper next day that a fee's been agreed with Cardiff for him.
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Then he's told to stay away from the ground & get his "head together" and then gets dropped completely from the team.

If he was going to say anything then it would've been then IMO.

I stand to be corrected on the last part though.

I wonder, if mogga was to go to either Ipswich or 'Boro, would Riordan be tempted to sign the deal then? Something isn't right in this whole scenario, I agree with Airghalla Gaischioch. Derek could just come out and say that the offer is a poor one, and then Hibs would be put under pressure from the fans. Also, if the offers are good enough for Brown, Thomson, etc... then it should be good enough for Riordan. That is, of course, if the offer is the same.
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[hibbyharp1875]

Originally Posted by Airghialla Gaiscíoch

Thats the question I've been asking for months but never had a satisfactory answer to yet.

Surely if Petrie/Mowbray are lying it would be the easiest thing in the world for Riordan/McArthur to put all the pressure back on the club by simply coming out and saying it isn't true
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everybody knows what the fans want, surely Riordan and McArthur do to.
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he will be the first agent to bother what the fans want , agents are only interested in making a quick buck
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[Dr Shrink]

Originally Posted by James Riordan

Jamie, quite simply, Derek doesn't speak to the press as such about any of the transfer speculation & he wouldn't like to bad mouth the club even if it were to benefit him.

I mean look at the treament he recd in relation to the Cardiff bid. Derek plays for club v Rangers, goes into see club before he joins up with Scotland, has chat with TM, told everything's fine, enjoy himself with Scotland etc, then reads in the paper next day that a fee's been agreed with Cardiff for him.
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Then he's told to stay away from the ground & get his "head together" and then gets dropped completely from the team.

If he was going to say anything then it would've been then IMO.

I stand to be corrected on the last part though.

James, I've read a few of your posts and frankly you always seem to be on Deeks side. It looks to me like you're one of his mates or something.

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But if what you say is true (and I believe every word) can you explain or even theorise why 'the club', obviously either Rod, Tony, or both, seem to want to be rid of Deek?
It was nearly understandable when the perceived choice was lose him for nothing like Ihun Murray or sell for a decent fee (£1,000,000 or so) but now it seems from your version of events that the club would just rather get rid of a guy who scores regularly, entertains, and is a fans favourite, than keep him for just a few coppers more?

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It seems a bit rum to me.

If the fans want him to stay, (they do) Derek wants to stay (he does) the Club will pay top dollar within the limits (they will) Derek will accept the 'top earner' role (he will), then........................

WHAT IS THE FECKIN PROBLEM?

I'm going to have to plead with Hisnet to get back on there, because I JUST DON'T GET IT!!!
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[Cal_Hibby_4_Life]

Originally Posted by Shearer

I wonder, if mogga was to go to either Ipswich or 'Boro, would Riordan be tempted to sign the deal then? Something isn't right in this whole scenario, I agree with Airghalla Gaischioch. Derek could just come out and say that the offer is a poor one, and then Hibs would be put under pressure from the fans. Also, if the offers are good enough for Brown, Thomson, etc... then it should be good enough for Riordan. That is, of course, if the offer is the same.
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i think that there is something between riordan and mowbray. TBH i don't think mowbray likes riordan, and that's why he isnt getting offered a fair deal to stay at hibs!

also, i heard that mowbray wanted rid of o'connor when killen was brought to the club, probably because he didn't like him either, and surprise surprise, o'connor left within a month or so of me hearing this rumour(i know we couldnt deny o'connor the chance though)

[Dr Shrink]

Originally Posted by Cal_Hibby_4_Life

..also, i heard that mowbray wanted rid of o'connor when killen was brought to the club, probably because he didn't like him either, and surprise surprise, o'connor left within a month or so of me hearing this rumour(i know we couldnt deny o'connor the chance though)

Remind me, because I'm old and forget..........

How long was Killen at Hibs before his challenge drove Gary off to pastures new?

[JamieHibby]

Originally Posted by James Riordan

Jamie, quite simply, Derek doesn't speak to the press as such about any of the transfer speculation & he wouldn't like to bad mouth the club even if it were to benefit him.

I mean look at the treament he recd in relation to the Cardiff bid. Derek plays for club v Rangers, goes into see club before he joins up with Scotland, has chat with TM, told everything's fine, enjoy himself with Scotland etc, then reads in the paper next day that a fee's been agreed with Cardiff for him.
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Then he's told to stay away from the ground & get his "head together" and then gets dropped completely from the team.

If he was going to say anything then it would've been then IMO.

I stand to be corrected on the last part though.

If not Derek, them why not McArthur. As we have the clubs side (the offer they claim to have made) it just seems strange to me that there is no counter to it if Petrie/Mowbray are telling porkies.

Now I don't know about most people but to me that can only be one of two things, Petrie/Mobray are not lying that they have gone to the max or Derek is wanting more than hibs are prepared to offer i.e above the wage cap. Not taking sides here James, not while I don't have both sides. Just trying to find the answers to a few things I find a bit strange.

With only one side of the story and no denial of the offer put forward it just doesn't look very good. If somebody was telling lies making me look bad I'd have something to say about it and sooner rather than later. I just find the silence very strange

I want Derek to stay as much as anyone and I wish this would sort itself out and just go away but it doesn't look like it. If Derek does go he will leave with my thanks for all the great goals and everything he has given to Hibs. He will also have my best wishes as long as he doesn't go you know where
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[Bukta]

Originally Posted by Dr Shrink

James, I've read a few of your posts and frankly you always seem to be on Deeks side. It looks to me like you're one of his mates or something.

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But if what you say is true (and I believe every word) can you explain or even theorise why 'the club', obviously either Rod, Tony, or both, seem to want to be rid of Deek?
It was nearly understandable when the perceived choice was lose him for nothing like Ihun Murray or sell for a decent fee (£1,000,000 or so) but now it seems from your version of events that the club would just rather get rid of a guy who scores regularly, entertains, and is a fans favourite, than keep him for just a few coppers more?

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It seems a bit rum to me.

If the fans want him to stay, (they do) Derek wants to stay (he does) the Club will pay top dollar within the limits (they will) Derek will accept the 'top earner' role (he will), then........................

WHAT IS THE FECKIN PROBLEM?

I'm going to have to plead with Hisnet to get back on there, because I JUST DON'T GET IT!!!
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Join the fricking club Shrink. I have absolutely no idea what Hibs are playing at with regards to Derek, but IMO, it's certainly not been fricking fair.

The club, be that TM/RP/whoever, IMO, have made sure he'll never sign another contract there.

As I've stated elsewhere, I've told other people on here, they'll know who they are, about what I percieved was going on at ER with regards to Derek's treatment from the club. All of which turned out to be true thus far. Not fricking good.

Anywho, good to see the other lads getting a deal & I'd give Stewart a pay per play deal and that'd be it. Incentiveise (is that even a word) his fitness.
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