mowbray boro bound?

[GloryGlory]

Originally Posted by 500miles

The Daily Record and its sister paper is a (sometimes entertaining) rag. Mowbray has already said that he believes that managers ( with notable exceptions such as Ferguson) have a shelf life of four years. He also hinted on the radio taht he would like a go at the Boro job, but he felt it was too early for him to take such a bit job; he said it would be another 2 or 3 years before he felt he had enough experience.

Basically the Glasgow media are just trying to unsettle us.
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Our manager is doing a bloody good job of that himself
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Think about signings in the summer. Who wants to sign for a manager who wont be here the next season
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This isnt even inexperience talking from him its just plain stupid. This man is supposed to get our players motivated yet he cant he even get himself up for it. Never thought I'd say it but maybe its time for a change sooner rather than later.
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[GEOFFTRUE HIBBY]

As many posters have already stated tony knew the "score" when he accepted the position.Yes he did well,surprisingly well to be honest in his first season.second season we have struggled at times ,yes due to injuries but ALSO due to (very) questionable team selections, tactical mistakes and dodgy signings these are down to Tony not RP .Bottom line is if I wanted success I would have my brain removed,won't wash and go and follow the OF or the Gunts-till the go under quicker the one of Romanov's subs. I AM A HIBEE, AND ALWAYS WILL BE .I have followed us under Turnbull,Ormond ,Auld.Miller ,Mowbray etc .I have followed them at places like Boghead,Bayview,MCDiarmid Park,Annfield (remember those grounds).I will continue to follow them wherever they play ,whatever league or cup they play in because I love Hibs,regardless of who the manager is ,or what the manager thinks we should be.Life is not ideal,Hibs are not ideal but I accept what I have and get on with both with hope and optimism,Tony should do the same and not voice his frustrations via the papers.
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[Proclaimers]

A relative of mine has heard from someone who is a
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that McClaren to England and Mowbray to Middlesbrough at the end of the season is already a done deal.

I think it is utter baws myself, but the guy that told my relative said it is definite. Time will tell...

[Colr]

Originally Posted by calumhibee1

You meaning fit now or in our whole squad?
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"I know the situation because Beuzelin is not there in midfield, normally you can roll him the ball anywhere you want and he's brilliant at putting his body and his backside between the ball and people and gets it on his left foot, his right foot, inside and out, and he buys a yard to play the pass. No offence to whoever may be playing in there at the moment, but their first touch may go back into trouble and it's a tackle and we lose the ball and it's a fight and it's in behind the back four and it's a goal, so we stop playing through the midfield and play back to front like every other team and see what happens and then it's a crap game. That's my frustration. "

[Proclaimers]

Having read the aritcle...


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I am very pissed off with T Mowbray. The team is at its worst state since he took over and he comes out and starts talking about when he is going to leave.

He should be boosting morale which is at its lowest since he has been here but no, he is talking about how he would love to work with the best players and comes out with pash like

Originally Posted by Tony Mowbray

I would love to go to Celtic Park and play like Barcelona did with their full-backs pushing right up high and leave the two centre backs and have a sitting midfielder you can bounce it off of and play, but you can only do that with the best players. You can't trust our centre-backs and our midfielders not to roll it just the wrong side and allow someone in to nick it and charge into the spaces.

That will give our defence and midfield the morale boost it needs eh Tony?

Tony knew the conditions he would have when he took over here and now it is going a bit wrong he is coming out moaning every single day about not having money. tough shit Tnoy, you knew about that when you took over.


Tony's philosophy is "attack minded football". Another one of his seems to be "When the going gets tough fcuk off"


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[Davy]

Originally Posted by Greenmachine

The situation with Tony Mowbray is very similar to that of Pat Stanton when he was Hibs manager between 1982 and 1984. Both came in with great intentions, both were hugely popular with the fans, and both were let down by the chronic lack of ambition and money at Easter Road. Both also refused to admit that they themselves have been partly responsible for the problems. Nothing has changed. Both Mowbray and Petrie/Farmer need to have a look at themselves :

1/ Mowbray has done well with Hibs on a limited budget, but he has not won anything. His team failed abysmaly in the Scottish Cup semi last year against Dundee United (mainly due to a tactical disaster from Mowbray), and this year against Hearts where the Hibs performance was an absolute shambles. Don't let's start on the CIS cup hammering from one of the worst teams in the league. Reading that article, he comes across as incredibly naive, and who has perhaps gone into the wrong career. Managing an SPL club is demanding and time-consuming. Alex Miller used to say that it was a 24 hour job, however in fairness to him, he got on with it for 10 years instead of bleating away to the Scottish media about how he has "taken the club as far as he can". I've rarely heard him yet say that he has got anything wrong, and that he could have done better. He has only been a manager for 2 years, and yet he now appears to think he is ready for "better" things. I don't think he will be in as big demand from a major club in the near future as he seems to think he will be. Try winning something Tony, and maybe then a club to match your ambitions might be interested.

2/ Our club is destined for permanent mediocrity and failure as long as we continue to be run as we are. Hibs need new investment and fresh, dynamic leadership and soon. The status quo of Farmer/Petrie running this club will result in the same outcome for the next 15 years as it has been for the last 15 years. Nil achievement with possibly the odd relegation thrown in for good measure.

For a man who claims to have no interest in football, it is rather odd that STF has remained in charge of a football club for 15 years. Petrie has no football connection either prior to being brought on board by Farmer as his Liuetenent in chief. We must be one of the few clubs in the world with an owner and chairman, neither of whom wanted to be in these positions in the first place. Farmer was begged by Kenny McLean to save Hibs in 1991, and reluctantly he did, and we are all eternally grateful. But that was 15 years ago, and he is still there having knocked back the odd takeover attempt.

I am only speaking for myself here, and if I am proved to be wrong then I will readily admit it. I do not think that Hibs will realise it's full potential, and have the success we all crave until there are changes at the very top. Mowbray has clearly realised this, and has virtually said he is off soon, although as I have said, I don't think there will be a huge queue of clubs waiting for him. Also, life won't get any easier Tony, the bigger the club, the more demands and the more pressure it will bring. Just ask Mr McLeish, 7 trophies won and he's still not good enough.

I agree in part with this. Mowbray has been given a chance many young men are denied. He knew when he came we had massive debts, the debts are reducing and that in part helped by TM himself, but he must know that a club rarely turns its fortunes so quick. The biggest distraction for him is the arrivals of the Lithuanians, but he needs to keep focused. His players have almost to a man signed long term contracts. Whats the point of running off and leaving them?

Take this as any apprentice would Tony and continue to learn your trade. There will not be a lot of money for next season but I bet there is a good deal more than Killie will spend. We have known almost bankrupcy amd liquidation, we dont want to go through that again.

Maybe your just firing a broadside to your bosses to release more money, but dont forget that these same guys are the ones who offered to kick start your career. Remember too that the fans have in the main supported you and understood the club limitations. We know TM will go but I just hope it will be thanking the team who gave him a platform.

But hopefully having made it to another semi, a cup tie with plenty gate money from ibrox, the Euro matches and the increased revenue generated in many ways will all add to the pot that Tony will be given next season.

[KABULHIBBY]

Originally Posted by Proclaimers

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that McClaren to England and Mowbray to Middlesbrough at the end of the season is already a done deal.

I think it is utter baws myself, but the guy that told my relative said it is definite. Time will tell...

Funny that was speaking to Bernie Slaven and he's been told O'Neill is the next Boro manager

[Colr]

Originally Posted by jimmyhibs

still waiting for an answer. is it broony, boozy or thomson you're talking about?

"I know the situation because Beuzelin is not there in midfield, normally you can roll him the ball anywhere you want and he's brilliant at putting his body and his backside between the ball and people and gets it on his left foot, his right foot, inside and out, and he buys a yard to play the pass. No offence to whoever may be playing in there at the moment, but their first touch may go back into trouble and it's a tackle and we lose the ball and it's a fight and it's in behind the back four and it's a goal, so we stop playing through the midfield and play back to front like every other team and see what happens and then it's a crap game. That's my frustration. "

[Colr]

Originally Posted by KABULHIBBY

Funny that was speaking to Bernie Slaven and he's been told O'Neill is the next Boro manager

I had O' Neill down as the next Manchester United manager.

[Pilrig]

Originally Posted by Colr

I had O' Neill down as the next Manchester United manager.

McLeish fancied his chances at Old Trafford once upon a time, after all he was never off the phone to his auld boss.

[KABULHIBBY]

Originally Posted by Colr

I had O' Neill down as the next Manchester United manager.

He was a shoe in until the Glazers took over however Fergie hasn't indicated that he plans to go in the next year or so, gives the Leprachaun a chance to prove to the yanks what he can do with a moderate amount of money

[Proclaimers]

Originally Posted by KABULHIBBY

Funny that was speaking to Bernie Slaven and he's been told O'Neill is the next Boro manager

Fair enough, i don't know the guy who told my relative so i can't really comment on how "reliable" he is.

[colintonhibby]

In mY Opinion Mowbray was bang out of order in his comments today.

I tend to think he is in the huff about something as well and was trying to make some sort of point with his comments.

Hibs is the real world of fotball management Tony and 2 years is not an apprenticeship for a big job you obviously crave . Look how long Ferige had to do at Aberdeen and the success he had.

Yes you have done a good job at Easter Road Tony but you are still serving your apprenticeship. Look at your record when it really matters 2 dreadful Scottish cup semi final performances and also lets not mention Dunfermline in the League cup. Add a piss poor defence you have had 2 years too sort out 2 poor goalkeepers and Tony you still have a fair bit of work to do here before you can convince people you are worthy to move on.

He has absolutely no need to say what he said in the papers today about his employers. Talk about unsettling a team. If his beloved Boro move in for him then he knows Hibs will not stand in his way so why mention it and probably unsettle the team.

I really admired his man management skills but more fool me again

[bumblebee]

I personally don't think Boro will touch him!

At the end of the day hje has achieved nothing with Hibs yet!

The Boro board will look for a manager who has won something and proved himself if McLaren leaves!

They are a big club and it is a big job!!

[KABULHIBBY]

Originally Posted by Proclaimers

Fair enough, i don't know the guy who told my relative so i can't really comment on how "reliable" he is.

Same for me really Proc, the info coming out was from a third party they have however said on the local news as well that O'Neill is turning down Newcastle for Boro and McClaren has known about the England job for a couple of days at least since last Wednesday.

TBH if I was Gibson I would go for MON over TM at the moment as well

[barbiegirl]

Originally Posted by colintonhibby

In mY Opinion Mowbray was bang out of order in his comments today.

I tend to think he is in the huff about something as well and was trying to make some sort of point with his comments.

Hibs is the real world of fotball management Tony and 2 years is not an apprenticeship for a big job you obviously crave . Look how long Ferige had to do at Aberdeen and the success he had.

Yes you have done a good job at Easter Road Tony but you are still serving your apprenticeship. Look at your record when it really matters 2 dreadful Scottish cup semi final performances and also lets not mention Dunfermline in the League cup. Add a piss poor defence you have had 2 years too sort out 2 poor goalkeepers and Tony you still have a fair bit of work to do here before you can convince people you are worthy to move on.

He has absolutely no need to say what he said in the papers today about his employers. Talk about unsettling a team. If his beloved Boro move in for him then he knows Hibs will not stand in his way so why mention it and probably unsettle the team.

I really admired his man management skills but more fool me again

How was he out of order?, he's said it as it is. He's an ambitious man and he wants success & I'm glad he is, would you want another Blobby ?, He's still done more in the last 2 years to give us back our self respect.He's frustrated that the club can't compete with the resources that the Infirm & the Scumbos have. We have a chairman that will not provide enough cash to re-sign our top striker. He's right, at this rate we'll win feck all. Are you happy to be "best of the Rest" or a good cup run.? I'm feckin not, but I'm a fan of Hibernian, I've got no option and can't change my team.
Would you rather he just put his head in the sand and ignore the problems here? PS he actually said the Boro job isn't for him,

[GloryGlory]

Originally Posted by Colr

"I know the situation because Beuzelin is not there in midfield, normally you can roll him the ball anywhere you want and he's brilliant at putting his body and his backside between the ball and people and gets it on his left foot, his right foot, inside and out, and he buys a yard to play the pass. No offence to whoever may be playing in there at the moment, but their first touch may go back into trouble and it's a tackle and we lose the ball and it's a fight and it's in behind the back four and it's a goal, so we stop playing through the midfield and play back to front like every other team and see what happens and then it's a crap game. That's my frustration. "

So basicly by posting this twice are you saying Boozy is our only good midfielder
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I'd have Brown or Thommo in my team over Boozy any day of the week.

[colintonhibby]

He was out of order cause he knew what the score was when he took the job. Yes since he has been in charge our club In all areas of it has went from strength to strength, marketing, season tickets and the playing side as well.

So lets abandon the good housekeeping Petrie has given to the club by living beyond our means again as most of the things he moaned about was a lack of cash and the quality of players he has to work with.

We gave Mcleish a pile of dosh to build up the playing side of the club. Look what happened we got ourselves in to a mountain of debt and we had Eduaro Hurtaudo on our books.

You dont go in the papers and moan about your employers when you knew the score when you took the job on.

Maybe Tony now feels he has outgrown our club and this is his way of saying he is available for offers

[Colr]

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

So basicly by posting this twice are you saying Boozy is our only good midfielder
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I'd have Brown or Thommo in my team over Boozy any day of the week.

Mowbray said it.

[GloryGlory]

Originally Posted by Colr

You can't fault his logic - he has a good understanding of why most Scottish football is crap -- its a disgrace that we only have one decent midfielder.

I know Mowbray said it. I take it that comment there was a sarcastic one and not your opinion then
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And Moggas comments there are a joke. I wonder whats Thommo and Scotty Brown thought reading those
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