The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread - HibeesBounce.com

The__Proclaimer · 17-08-08, 16:25

The usual cliche' given by the latest incumbent of the Sectarian Firm's hotseat is always 'aye it was a soft penalty but these even out during the course of a season'. I say bollocks to that. Week 2 in the SPL and already Celtic have recieved a travesty of a penalty and both of the bigots have had stone wallers denied against them. Let's see how these penalty decisions really do even out over 38 weeks. Current score.

Old Firm 3 - 0 The Rest.

Feel free to add to the tally throughout the campaign.

**Dr Shrink** · 17-08-08, 16:33

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The usual cliche' given by the latest incumbent of the Sectarian Firm's hotseat is always 'aye it was a soft penalty but these even out during the course of a season'. I say bollocks to that. Week 2 in the SPL and already Celtic have recieved a travesty of a penalty and both of the bigots have had stone wallers denied against them. Let's see how these penalty decisions really do even out over 38 weeks. Current score.

Old Firm 3 - 0 The Rest.

Feel free to add to the tally throughout the campaign.

I think you misunderstand what the pundits/press/ mean when they say 'it evens out'.
It actually DOES even out. Both the OF teams get the benefit of being gifted dodgy penalties, yet also the benefit of the doubt if it is against them.

The fact (and your point) that the even-handedness doesn'textend to any other team is entirely missed by them because they simply don't care. Scottish football in their eyes starts and ends in the Weege and with two teams in particular.

Pisses me off too.
And probably another couple of million football fans.

**ZemmamasBarnet** · 17-08-08, 16:49

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The usual cliche' given by the latest incumbent of the Sectarian Firm's hotseat is always 'aye it was a soft penalty but these even out during the course of a season'. I say bollocks to that. Week 2 in the SPL and already Celtic have recieved a travesty of a penalty and both of the bigots have had stone wallers denied against them. Let's see how these penalty decisions really do even out over 38 weeks. Current score.

Old Firm 3 - 0 The Rest.

Feel free to add to the tally throughout the campaign.

Interesting....

Sticky request?

**fieryjack** · 17-08-08, 19:16

I would 'sticky this' but I would also do the following:

Split this table this way:

Celtic 1/2 Rangers 3/4, where the 1 and 3 shows dodgy penalties awarded and the 2 and 4 shows blatant penalties not awarded.

This could be added to with red cards etc...if we are really feeling paranoid
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**egb_hibs** · 17-08-08, 19:29

it's completely untenable for any OF fan to dispute they are favoured in penalty decisions and the like. none of the halfway bright ones i know do dispute it. they bicker about who gets the most breaks between them, but they concede - because there's no credible alternative - that both get plenty more breaks than the rest.

anyone who seriously denies this is potty.

**1875** · 18-08-08, 13:40

I think this is worthy of a sticky?

**wee 162** · 18-08-08, 15:21

Can we at least split this up into "stonewall" and "probably" decisions? I'm also assuming we are doing this with Hibs as well for comparisons sake?

Hibs = should have had a penalty at Kilmarnock imo. So we're -1 goal, and -1 point. Put them under the "probably" column though.

Mixxxu · 19-08-08, 13:08

I dont think Falkirks one last week was a penalty but he missed it anyway.

**wee 162** · 19-08-08, 15:31

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I dont think Falkirks one last week was a penalty but he missed it anyway.

The one against the huns? Looked pretty stonewall to me.

Mixxxu · 19-08-08, 16:23

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The one against the huns? Looked pretty stonewall to me.

Not convinced myself.I'd be raging if it had been against us.The guy just threw himself to the deck.

**Steve20** · 20-08-08, 13:15

I think Falkirks penalty against Rangers was a penalty. The one Celtic got last week was a disgrace. The striker grabs the defender and falls down and gets a penalty. Although, they should have had a penalty not long before that.

Then this week, IMO Hearts should have had a penalty at Ibrox and Dundee Utd had one defo and maybe even another one turned down.

**HailHail** · 20-08-08, 13:30

I thought Celtic's PK against St Midden was a stonewaller, i'd have been howling had it been our player and we hadn't got it.

As was said, Hearts should've had one v hun, Dundee Utd should've had two V ciltec.

that said, the huns PK v yams was a stonewaller.

Mixxxu · 24-08-08, 15:03

McManus goal yesterday sounded like a handball.Havent seen it myself.Anyone?

**SKII** · 24-08-08, 17:24

In the interests of balance (as nobody has rushed to post it
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The Huns were upset by a decision right at the end of yesterday's game where a good goal was chalked off for offside - injury time strike that would have won the cloven hooved ones the game.

**Gunnerhibby** · 24-08-08, 17:43

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In the interests of balance (as nobody has rushed to post it
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The Huns were upset by a decision right at the end of yesterday's game where a good goal was chalked off for offside - injury time strike that would have won the cloven hooved ones the game.

Yes, but was it?
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If you were Walter Smith then you would lose the "good goal" argument based on what he said in some of todays press.

He states: "Kris Boyd is not offside as he is walking back and not interfering. We've had this rule for years so the linesman should be able to handle it.

From what I saw on Zittelli, Boyd was moving forward not backward, in an offside position, clearly trying to get to the baw that was sailing over his heid(he had no chance as it was too high). It landed sweetly for Beastly, who wasn't in an offside position.

So the Linesman was spot on, Boyd was involved in the play.

The goal is disallowed! No goal! No goal!
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LL Col K · 25-08-08, 02:11

clear goal denied for the gers this week. 1 point more for the Dons than deserved.

In general, disallowed goals/pks not given v the OF are more contentious, because the result tends to hinge on that decision.

The OF get plenty decisions against them, but since they're generally winning by 2 goals at the time, no one bats an eyelid, or rather, its forgetten in the mornin's buckie hangover

The refs can sometimes be guilty of protecting teams like St Mirren from conceeding that 5th goal in the last 5 minutes...

**Dinkydoo336** · 02-09-08, 10:31

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McManus goal yesterday sounded like a handball.Havent seen it myself.Anyone?

Aye I watched the highlights and it looked like a handball to me.

Barstewards!!

Colr · 03-09-08, 08:42

What's the latest score then?

17-08-08, 16:25	#1
The__Proclaimer A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Sunshine Age: 25 Posts: 3,988 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 11	The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread The usual cliche' given by the latest incumbent of the Sectarian Firm's hotseat is always 'aye it was a soft penalty but these even out during the course of a season'. I say bollocks to that. Week 2 in the SPL and already Celtic have recieved a travesty of a penalty and both of the bigots have had stone wallers denied against them. Let's see how these penalty decisions really do even out over 38 weeks. Current score. Old Firm 3 - 0 The Rest. Feel free to add to the tally throughout the campaign. __________________ 'I'd rather see my sister in a brothel than my brother in a Hearts scarf'

17-08-08, 19:16	#4
fieryjack Radge Private Member Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: glasgow Posts: 1,292 Thanks: 2 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 8	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread I would 'sticky this' but I would also do the following: Split this table this way: Celtic 1/2 Rangers 3/4, where the 1 and 3 shows dodgy penalties awarded and the 2 and 4 shows blatant penalties not awarded. This could be added to with red cards etc...if we are really feeling paranoid To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. fj np : DAF 'Gold Und Liebe' __________________ "They have become the equivalent of a tolley that didn't flush the first time. They are floating, only just, stinking up the place, but the cistern is being refilled and they will be flushed down the pan, the smell will dissipate and we will never have to think of them again." The Vinster

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egb_hibs Khmer Radge Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: From the Capital Posts: 20,535 My Mood: Thanks: 1 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Rep Power: 30	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread it's completely untenable for any OF fan to dispute they are favoured in penalty decisions and the like. none of the halfway bright ones i know do dispute it. they bicker about who gets the most breaks between them, but they concede - because there's no credible alternative - that both get plenty more breaks than the rest. anyone who seriously denies this is potty. __________________ "All democrats object to men being disqualified by the accident of birth; tradition objects to their being disqualified by the accident of death."

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1875 Vino Tinto Admin Radge Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Livingston/ Dublin Age: 42 Posts: 17,147 Thanks: 1 Thanked 8 Times in 6 Posts Rep Power: 36	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread I think this is worthy of a sticky? __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. *To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.*

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wee 162 Bounce Flag Co-Owner Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Sunny Leith Age: 34 Posts: 12,685 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 32	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread Can we at least split this up into "stonewall" and "probably" decisions? I'm also assuming we are doing this with Hibs as well for comparisons sake? Hibs = should have had a penalty at Kilmarnock imo. So we're -1 goal, and -1 point. Put them under the "probably" column though. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. quality='high' bgcolor='#006699' width='300' height='184' name='indecision_2008_action_item' align='middle' allowScriptAccess='always' allownetworking='external' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage=' To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. who seek to be equal with men lack ambition.” Timothy Leary

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Mixxxu Adult Radge Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 368 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread I dont think Falkirks one last week was a penalty but he missed it anyway. __________________ "Frail met with sport director Anatoli Korobochka at Tynecastle yesterday morning and was told – on orders from Lithuania – that he wasn't needed."

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Steve20 Amadou Konte is a Legend Radge Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Bellevue Age: 26 Posts: 1,933 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 7	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread I think Falkirks penalty against Rangers was a penalty. The one Celtic got last week was a disgrace. The striker grabs the defender and falls down and gets a penalty. Although, they should have had a penalty not long before that. Then this week, IMO Hearts should have had a penalty at Ibrox and Dundee Utd had one defo and maybe even another one turned down. __________________ "To be the man, you gotta beat the man. WOOOOOOOOO!!!"

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HailHail PEG SELLING RADGE Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Embra Age: 30 Posts: 5,597 My Mood: Thanks: 202 Thanked 60 Times in 33 Posts Rep Power: 12	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread I thought Celtic's PK against St Midden was a stonewaller, i'd have been howling had it been our player and we hadn't got it. As was said, Hearts should've had one v hun, Dundee Utd should've had two V ciltec. that said, the huns PK v yams was a stonewaller. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.

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Mixxxu Adult Radge Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Ireland Posts: 368 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread McManus goal yesterday sounded like a handball.Havent seen it myself.Anyone? __________________ "Frail met with sport director Anatoli Korobochka at Tynecastle yesterday morning and was told – on orders from Lithuania – that he wasn't needed."

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SKII Administrator Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Right here, right now Posts: 7,685 My Mood: Thanks: 19 Thanked 42 Times in 34 Posts Rep Power: 42	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread In the interests of balance (as nobody has rushed to post it To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. ) The Huns were upset by a decision right at the end of yesterday's game where a good goal was chalked off for offside - injury time strike that would have won the cloven hooved ones the game. __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. My Countdown Is........ Counting down to: Back to work... damn

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LL Col K Baby Radge Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 20 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: The 'it evens itself up over the course of a season' Thread clear goal denied for the gers this week. 1 point more for the Dons than deserved. In general, disallowed goals/pks not given v the OF are more contentious, because the result tends to hinge on that decision. The OF get plenty decisions against them, but since they're generally winning by 2 goals at the time, no one bats an eyelid, or rather, its forgetten in the mornin's buckie hangover The refs can sometimes be guilty of protecting teams like St Mirren from conceeding that 5th goal in the last 5 minutes...

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