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Old 17-02-08, 20:30   #1
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northern rock nationalised!

does that make us a de facto socialist state?
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Re: northern rock nationalised!

I wonder if Northern Rock's traders will get a pay rise of 2.1% this year, then.
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Old 17-02-08, 21:28   #3
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The politics in all of this are beyond the joke..
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Re: northern rock nationalised!

It's normal to expect the opposition to try and exploit the situation dishonestly, and that is the real pity in this situation. British politics are a shambles.
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Old 18-02-08, 18:04   #6
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2.1%? we were offered 1% for 2007 in february 2008!
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Only if the exclusive credo of socialists is to protect the banking system.
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Old 18-02-08, 19:39   #8
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2.1%? we were offered 1% for 2007 in february 2008!
Public sector job in the Hebrides must be good, though.
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Old 18-02-08, 21:03   #9
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Re: northern rock nationalised!

Government could still sell off its loans and mortgages to get its money back. Basically asset strip it. Screw the shareholders - it part of the risk of share ownership.
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Re: northern rock nationalised!

my mortgage is with the Northern Rock...
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does that mean the roof over my head is dependent on Alasdair Darling
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that's enough to make ye vote Torie
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does that mean the roof over my head is dependent on Alasdair Darling
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His mortgage is with Northern Rock as well. And if that doesn't save you, then at least you'll be able to take comfort in the fact that he's in the mess with you.
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I think he voted for the "Agenda for Change" package that has begun the destruction of the NHS

for that reason alone I would love to see him sell the Big Issue

BTW can he deal with NR without it being a conflict of interest
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I thought Vince Cable of the Lib Dems gave great quotes and a sensible opposition yesterday in the commons...

Further good words from a guy who really ought to be leader of the Lib Dems IMO..

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Re: northern rock nationalised!

does this mean Newcastle Utd should have HM Government on the front of their shirts?
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Thank feck Northern Rock aren't sponsoring the Yams.. Imagine knowing that indirectly we were sponsoring the Gunts..

Any Sunderland fans about?
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Re: northern rock nationalised!

Mr. Cable strikes again!!

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Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman, has today written to the Chancellor asking why it appeared that Granite held Northern Rock’s best mortgages, saddling the taxpayer with the worst. He likened the arrangement to "asset-stripping".

"In simple terms, what seems to have happened is that (Granite's) bond holders, who have the benefit of the best security the bank can offer, are being elevated above the taxpayer," Mr Cable wrote.

"In effect, there has been an asset-stripping operation designed to protect this segment of the bank’s activities while the taxpayer is being left with the poor quality assets: unsecured loans and high risk mortgages."
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Vince Cable, the Liberal Democrat Treasury spokesman, has today written to the Chancellor asking why it appeared that Granite held Northern Rock’s best mortgages, saddling the taxpayer with the worst. He likened the arrangement to "asset-stripping".

"In simple terms, what seems to have happened is that (Granite's) bond holders, who have the benefit of the best security the bank can offer, are being elevated above the taxpayer," Mr Cable wrote.

"In effect, there has been an asset-stripping operation designed to protect this segment of the bank’s activities while the taxpayer is being left with the poor quality assets: unsecured loans and high risk mortgages."
Vince Cable should be the leader of the Lib Dems.. I watched PMQ's earlier today and that Nick Clegg is feckin useless. A posher Neil Kinnock at asking a question...
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