Alex Salmond threatens to resign....... - HibeesBounce.com

**PILTONSTANY** · 05-02-08, 20:04

as 1st minister if his party's budget isn't passed the morn......

Smurf · 05-02-08, 20:11

It will be passed.

**Stirlinghibee** · 06-02-08, 12:25

Salmond resigning might be a very clever ploy.

1. Wendy is "tainted" with sleaze. Labour in Scotland is generally a shambles.

2. There has been no backlash (apart from a whimper over Trump), over the SNP government. In fact, all the polls show people are quite happy with it.

3. The "Unionist" front has not got off the ground yet, and has embarressed itself by the 3 MSP's being "called" to Westminster .

4. Party coffers are starting to fill again, with the SNP having a surge of new members.

5. The " D Alexander's policy of fear" , which Labour used as it's trump card in 1999 and 2003 , bluff has been called. And proved to be a load of shite (where is my £5000 tax bill??, oh look, the RBS is moving to Berwick??).

Therefore, now is perhaps a good time to call an election for May. The SNP will get a working majority this time.

**Purple & Green** · 06-02-08, 12:35

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Therefore, now is perhaps a good time to call an election for May. The SNP will get a working majority this time.

Can anyone call an election? I thought it was a fixed term of 4 years.

**Stirlinghibee** · 06-02-08, 12:54

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Can anyone call an election? I thought it was a fixed term of 4 years.

Very true, bud. However, it is still possible as according to the Scotland Act
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If the Parliament itself resolves that it should be dissolved (with at least two-thirds of the Members voting in favour), or if the Parliament fails to nominate one of its members to be First Minister within 28 days of a General Election or of the position becoming vacant,[59] the Presiding Officer proposes a date for an extraordinary general election and the Parliament is dissolved by the Queen by royal proclamation."

So if Alex resigns....Things might get interesting on the other side of Regent Road.

hibs1986 · 06-02-08, 13:07

So...are we all up for another election?
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**Stirlinghibee** · 06-02-08, 13:52

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So...are we all up for another election?
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We might well be. If a FM resigns/dies , then the governing party will put forward a new candidate, and democracy will be seen to continue as this person would have party ballot box legitimancy.

However, If the governing party does not put forward a candidate, then you either have i) a new governing coalition (ie Nicol and Wendy cosy up) with "Zippy" Alexander as the new FM or ii) A new election. Democracy would demand ii) .

Colr · 06-02-08, 14:23

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as 1st minister if his party's budget isn't passed the morn......

I was in Greggs and I heard he has his eye on the Jambos commercial director job.

**Green Sleeves** · 06-02-08, 15:51

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So...are we all up for another election?
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If only! Then we could get an SNP landslide/majority this Spring and we'd have our referendum on Scottish independence in 2010.

This is why Alex Salmond and the SNP hold all the aces and why the Unionist parties will keck themselves rather than vote down the SNP budget.

Tibs · 06-02-08, 16:00

haven't followed this story at all but sounds like an extreme course of action from Salmond. is he having a tantrum or is this a justified move?

**Green Sleeves** · 06-02-08, 16:22

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haven't followed this story at all but sounds like an extreme course of action from Salmond. is he having a tantrum or is this a justified move?

It's tactics combined with PR. Salmond is basically rubbing the opposition's noses in the fact that despite their superior numbers he is in charge. He's making them look like the ineffective losers that they are.

If the three Unionist parties wanted to, they could vote down the budget, accept Salmond's resignation, then vote together to elect a First Minister from their own ranks. They've got the numbers to do this... but they haven't got the balls.

Colr · 06-02-08, 16:27

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It's tactics combined with PR. Salmond is basically rubbing the opposition's noses in the fact that despite their superior numbers he is in charge. He's making them look like the ineffective losers that they are.

If the three Unionist parties wanted to, they could vote down the budget, accept Salmond's resignation, then vote together to elect a First Minister from their own ranks. They've got the numbers to do this... but they haven't got the balls.

What a knob cheese.

**Green Sleeves** · 06-02-08, 16:48

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What a knob cheese.

All politicians are.

**HailHail** · 06-02-08, 17:36

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If only! Then we could get an SNP landslide/majority this Spring and we'd have our referendum on Scottish independence in 2010.

This is why Alex Salmond and the SNP hold all the aces and why the Unionist parties will keck themselves rather than vote down the SNP budget.

Do you think the SNP will wait for a tory win down south before calling a referendum? play the 'remember the tories' card, GS?

That could be a tactical masterstroke
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**Green Sleeves** · 06-02-08, 18:06

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Do you think the SNP will wait for a tory win down south before calling a referendum? play the 'remember the tories' card, GS?

That could be a tactical masterstroke
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I reckon thats been the plan from day one. And not a bad one at that.
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NB SNP budget just passed.

64 for
1 against
60 abstentions

**HailHail** · 06-02-08, 18:14

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I reckon thats been the plan from day one. And not a bad one at that.
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NB SNP budget just passed.

64 for
1 against
60 abstentions

It's clever in many ways, it would also mean that hitler esque orator david cameron would be the PM who presided over the break up of the UK
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. i WONDER HOW THE WELSH AND ni FOLKS WOULD TAKE TO TORY RULE AGAIN
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Hampden_Hibby · 06-02-08, 20:12

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What a knob cheese.

Aye but as astute a knob cheese as you'll ever find.
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Colr · 06-02-08, 20:17

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Aye but as astute a knob cheese as you'll ever find.
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and as smug.

Hampden_Hibby · 06-02-08, 20:30

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and as smug.

He's got plenty to be smug about, best Scottish politician of his generation.

Although I bet he'll no get a statue like Donald 'umm' Dewar.
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sKipper · 06-02-08, 20:34

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and as smug.

And the best politician this country has ever seen.

The Lib Lab pact were so petrified of an election they both abstained !

Salmond has utterly destroyed them
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He was doubled up with laughter when the result came in.

Colr · 06-02-08, 20:37

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He's got plenty to be smug about, best Scottish politician of his generation.

Although I bet he'll no get a statue like Donald 'umm' Dewar.
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He's the only real parliamentarian amongst a bunch of councillors - all that experience at Westminster has stood him in good stead.

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Tibs A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,269 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 5	Re: Alex Salmond threatens to resign....... haven't followed this story at all but sounds like an extreme course of action from Salmond. is he having a tantrum or is this a justified move?