What Do You Make of This, Then?

[Colr]

Teachers are five times more likely to tell off boys than girls even though they are equally badly behaved, say researchers.

Experts believe that staff are more likely to pick on boys for their misbehaviour because they are louder than their female classmates.


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[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Colr
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Teachers are five times more likely to tell off boys than girls even though they are equally badly behaved, say researchers.

Experts believe that staff are more likely to pick on boys for their misbehaviour because they are louder than their female classmates.


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hardly surprising in a state culture which has institutionalised sexism against males.

[Dr Shrink]

Originally Posted by Colr
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Teachers are five times more likely to tell off boys than girls even though they are equally badly behaved, say researchers.

Experts believe that staff are more likely to pick on boys for their misbehaviour because they are louder than their female classmates.


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I wonder at what age that actually changes then.......... is it puberty?

[Colr]

Originally Posted by Dr Shrink
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I wonder at what age that actually changes then.......... is it puberty?

It was primary schools - only two, though. Not exactly a comprehensive study.

[SKII]

Originally Posted by Colr
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It was primary schools - only two, though. Not exactly a comprehensive study.

Hmmm...
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[O'Driscoll]

Some girls are f***ing deadly in the classroom. in the school where I work, I know one who picked an argument with a male teacher and got it to the point whereby they were trading insults. With each remark she upped the ante and he did likewise till he swore at her, she then produced her mobile and said 'sir you've just been recorded!'

[Sancho Panza]

It's really weird that you should say this because that was exactly the case when I was at primary school (a long time ago, I know
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). The girls got away with murder, while we got belted for the slightest transgression. And that was in the 70s. Plus ca change..

[Sunshine on Leith]

Originally Posted by Colr
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It was primary schools - only two, though. Not exactly a comprehensive study.

I work as a jannie in a primary school,I think i'll conduct a wee poll on monday to see if it's true.

[SKII]

Originally Posted by Sunshine on Leith
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I work as a jannie in a primary school,I think i'll conduct a wee poll on monday to see if it's true.

Do you shout at more boys than girls?
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In my day at your school we weren't even in the same playground.
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[madkink]

2 girls in my started knocking lumps out off each other, and it was a "what happened lets talk about it with the guidence teacher"

I got my nose burst and the laddie got excluded with the thread off going to canonmills,

2 girls kicking each other in the face got seperated and told to move on, 2 guys did the same thing and 1 was expelled and the police were involved,

So there has always been a "gender gap" in behaviour and punishment, but the thing is girls are sneakier and play on there vunrability when it suits them,

[Sunshine on Leith]

Originally Posted by SKII
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Do you shout at more boys than girls?
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In my day at your school we weren't even in the same playground.
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Got to say Jill, i'm one of the new age jannie's I hope. I like to get on with the kids and the kids seem to appreciete the banter.

Shouting at the teachers, now that's another matter.:YAYYY:

[Tkraz]

Yep, would agree with that when I was at school that was the case.

[deltinghibby]

In my experience i would say it is much easier to sort out boys than it is girls. Boys see a telling off as par for the course while girls take it much more personally - that's my view anyway. Obviously this is a huge generalisation but perhaps female teachers would say different.

[SKII]

Originally Posted by Sunshine on Leith
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Got to say Jill, i'm one of the new age jannie's I hope. I like to get on with the kids and the kids seem to appreciete the banter.

Shouting at the teachers, now that's another matter.:YAYYY:

Liking yer style
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[SKII]

Originally Posted by deltinghibby
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In my experience i would say it is much easier to sort out boys than it is girls. Boys see a telling off as par for the course while girls take it much more personally - that's my view anyway. Obviously this is a huge generalisation but perhaps female teachers would say different.

I wouldnt disagree - many teenage girls tend to have far too much more to say for themselves as well. They undertake classroom mental warfare with far more skill
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[chez]

Originally Posted by madkink
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2 girls in my started knocking lumps out off each other, and it was a "what happened lets talk about it with the guidence teacher"

I got my nose burst and the laddie got excluded with the thread off going to canonmills,

2 girls kicking each other in the face got seperated and told to move on, 2 guys did the same thing and 1 was expelled and the police were involved,

So there has always been a "gender gap" in behaviour and punishment, but the thing is girls are sneakier and play on there vunrability when it suits them,

I agree, my son and his male colleagues are spotted right away and the lassies in his class just get overlooked. My son has been suspended just before Christmas because one of the lassies threw a pencil at the teacher and him and his pal got the blame and punishment for it - totally unfair IMO.

The education system is female dominated and designed to suit feminine requirements - such as the need to talk and multi-task. Males have had their needs abandoned since there is hardly any physical education in schools now - males require this to burn off the high energy levels especialy during puberty when their testosterone (sp) levels increase and then they are able to focus more in the classroom. If this need is not met, then more males will become destructive and aggressive in the classroom.

[SKII]

Originally Posted by chez
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Males have had their needs abandoned since there is hardly any physical education in schools now - males require this to burn off the high energy levels especialy during puberty when their testosterone (sp) levels increase and then they are able to focus more in the classroom. If this need is not met, then more males will become destructive and aggressive in the classroom.

Is it simply the lack of PE that is to blame for the behaviour of an increasing number of youths?

Is it not more complex than that?

Also, is it only the responsibility of the school to deliver this need? Exercise and constructive channelling of energy away from school has fallen away big style in society full stop.

When we were wee lots of kids did extra curricular activities and other things like scouts, BBs, simply playing football, biking, youth clubs etc.

Culturally we have changed as a society - it seems these days free time is spent in front of playstations, televisions etc Kids deem organised activity beneath them or dorky and often cannot be bothered with the self discipline of going along to school or club football teams/basketball/rugby etc.

I think as a society we are close to a pivotal point in terms of these things - the future of extra-curricular activities are in the balance.

The whole issue of underage drinking, hanging about the streets and parents not really knowing what wee Jimmy or Jessie is getting up to is also another branch of this very complex situation we find ourselves in.

I believe the behaviour in classrooms is simply an extension of what we see in society as a whole. Children need stability and constructive activities in their daily routines. Many do not get this. And even when kids do come from pretty stable backgrounds, peer pressure can have them dragged into behaviour patterns that are difficult for them to get out of.


There is also strong evidence to link behavioural problems with learning problems. The two often, not always, go hand in hand. Research indicates that poor literacy levels are often at the root of poor behaviour. If a kid cannot access what is going on in the classroom they will deflect - usually by disrupting. Sadly, it is boys who are most likely to suffer from dyslexia, dispraxia etc.

There is not the investment required in the education budget to address the magnitude of the problem. Indeed, with the £4m cuts pending in the Edinburgh local authority education spending for next year there will be even less money for schools to spend on support of learning. Learning assistants are often the first to be cut because they are often on temporary contracts. (But hey, we'll have the trams eh Edinburgh Council? Who cares if the schools are on shoestring budgets and a paying off the people who help with extra reading or writing for those with delayed literacy skills? Politicians have a lot to answer for)

The problem with literacy levels (in boys especially) is exacerbated by the fact there are fewer and fewer parents making the effort to do paired reading with their children at home. It is often all too obvious in the classroom when homework or reading practice is not getting done. These aspects of improving children's chances in life are greatly underestimated.

Increasingly many boys lack positive male role models in their lives also. A male teacher can often fill this role and it is important we have a good balance in terms of teacher complement. However, the domination of female teachers is mainly in the primary sector - why is that? Why in our society do men not want to teach rugrats? It is an important question. One of many aspects of the whole picture...

In short, if only it were as simple as just adding more PE into the curriculum for boys. That would be great, problem solved?

The minimum amount of PE prescribed by the Executive is a nonsense - absolutely no doubt about that - but society on a greater scale is the issue here. And there is no easy fix for it. In the meantime, it is such as the classroom teacher on the frontline trying to deal with hormones and disruption. Sometimes they might get it wrong, they are only human, but most are simply trying to do the best they can in very challenging circumstances at times.

[Kidd 86]

Originally Posted by Colr
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Teachers are five times more likely to tell off boys than girls even though they are equally badly behaved, say researchers.

Experts believe that staff are more likely to pick on boys for their misbehaviour because they are louder than their female classmates.


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I knew it
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