Capello gets England job

[Greenmachine]

Strange choice IMO..
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A year and a half ago they booted out Eriksson who was a foreign manager with broken English and was at that time the highest paid manager in the world at £4 Million per year. After he flopped they then brought in McLaren who hardly lasted anytime at all.. So now we have Capello, a man who cannot speak a word of English and has no interest in learning the language apparently, and his Italian job of backroom staff. He is being paid £6 Million a year, that's £2 Million more than the flop Eriksson was on a year or so ago. Both men's club records are equally impressive, but Eriksson did not have a clue how to manage an international football team.

FWIW I firmly believe that an International manager is a special job, and should be done by a coach from that country. It is a very sad indicement of English football that they have been unable to appoint an English manager good enough to coach the national team, instead once again they have went for the glamour name from abroad and made him the highest paid manager in the world.

I can't understand the logic in this appointment at all...

[southfieldhibby]

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4 1/2 years for nigh on £30 Million? No wonder he's feckin smiling

[KeithTheHibee]

Well he can't be any worse than the last one, can he
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[Burbank Lilywhite]

Originally Posted by KeithTheHibee
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Well he can't be any worse than the last one, can he
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We can hope.

[Euskal Hibernia]

Originally Posted by Greenmachine
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Strange choice IMO..
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FWIW I firmly believe that an International manager is a special job, and should be done by a coach from that country.

Not sure about that.

South Korea & Guus Hiddink, Russia & Guus Hiddink, Brazil & "Big" Phil Scolari to name a couple of recent examples.

FWIW I thought Mourinho wouldve been a better choice. I don't think Capello's press conference style (as seen at Real Madrid) is going to go down too well with the Ingerlish media wheras JM currently has them eating out of his hand.

[Colr]

He plays a really boring game of football - no change there, then.

[Stirlinghibee]

The first time they fail to beat Brazil 5-0 at home , the vultures will circle! The only punter who will ever get a fair crack at the most difficult job in football (the gulf between the expectations and the stale reality is the biggest in world sport), is someone who has been picked by a commitee of the main sports editors of the Mirror, Sun, Star et al.
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Nah, They would still slaughter him!
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[Colr]

I think Harry Rednap would have got them playing for the shirt.

Ah, who am I kidding. I would have put Darcy Bussell in the job.
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[Dub]

Originally Posted by Greenmachine
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Strange choice IMO..
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A year and a half ago they booted out Eriksson who was a foreign manager with broken English and was at that time the highest paid manager in the world at £4 Million per year. After he flopped they then brought in McLaren who hardly lasted anytime at all.. So now we have Capello, a man who cannot speak a word of English and has no interest in learning the language apparently, and his Italian job of backroom staff. He is being paid £6 Million a year, that's £2 Million more than the flop Eriksson was on a year or so ago. Both men's club records are equally impressive, but Eriksson did not have a clue how to manage an international football team.

FWIW I firmly believe that an International manager is a special job, and should be done by a coach from that country. It is a very sad indicement of English football that they have been unable to appoint an English manager good enough to coach the national team, instead once again they have went for the glamour name from abroad and made him the highest paid manager in the world.

I can't understand the logic in this appointment at all...

Its the money involved that gets me. 6.5 million per year if the papers are to be believed. Thats £12.36p per minute, per fukking minute, so when he goes to bed at night, say at midnight and gets up at 7 in the morning he would have earned £5,194.00 approx whilst he was asleep. The good thing though is if he turns out to be as useless a bawbag as that kant Sven and gets the heave from engerland sooner than the end of his contract engerland still have to pay him all that dough.

southfieldHibby could have done with wages like that to cover the staff night out
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[wee 162]

I'm actually a bit worried about this as someone who wants to see England getting skelped tbh. He's a very good manager, seems to actively enjoy pumping some superstar out of his side to create a fear of him amongst his players, and he gets his sides very effective. My hope is that he finds it difficult to adjust to international football where you have to work with what you've got rather than signing someone who you feel would improve you. The other hope I hold out is that he antagonises the English press enough for them to start a witch hunt which the FA pays attention to to sack him.

[Smurf]

IMO the best manager they've appointed in a long time.

He's a class act. They'll not be exciting or entertaining but i don't think we'll see many Macedonia, Northern Ireland or Croatia type of results in a while.
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[Cuckoo Hill]

I'm English, but I don't get too worked up about the England team. Across Europe, club coaches are supposed to have a UEFA Coaching Certificate. I asked myself why Capello's certificate should be deemed to be superior to Redknapp's and I sympathised with Redknapp's sarcastic comment about Capello: "He must know much more than us about football". Slowly, however, I began to realise that the UEFA Coaching Certificate is like the driving licence: just a minimum; obtaining a driving licence does not make you a good driver. Capello has gone beyond this bare minimum; for many years he has fought tactical battles against Spanish teams, German teams and just about any type of team you care to mention. He is experienced in international football. An England manager needs that experience. Redknapp and co. do not possess it.

Of course, even those who don't possess a UEFA Coaching Certificate can see that England's undoing has been sitting too deep in defence of a lead. It baffles me that neither Eriksson nor McClaren was able to right this failing. They must have seen it. Couldn't they get a message to the captain? Couldn't the captain rally the players? I'm fed up with hearing captains that do bugger all say what an honour it is to wear the armband. If Capello were to get some improvement in this area, I would see it as significant progress.

[TonySoprano]

I think he's a very good appointment in theory, in that he shoul be able to get them as far as it's possible to go

I would expect Owen Hargreaves to become a fixture in the side as a destroyer, something he's always had in his teams and for him to get defenders who can defend first, then worry about them getting forward.

His big problems come in personnel and the attitude of English players. None of their goalkeepers are International class and they have a real lack of quality up front, Rooney aside. That's coupled with no genuine left sided midfielder and nothing much down the right. You'd expect him to dump a couple of high profile players from the first team (my bets are Owen and Lampard) but whether he can change the attitude of players who want to bomb the ball forward at every opportunity is his big test.

I would expect something similar to Eriksson's reign, mainly cautious football and QF's, or with a lucky draw maybe a semi-final, at best cause they simply aren't any better than that.

[TonySoprano]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo Hill
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Of course, even those who don't possess a UEFA Coaching Certificate can see that England's undoing has been sitting too deep in defence of a lead. It baffles me that neither Eriksson nor McClaren was able to right this failing.

Don't agree. They are forced to sit back because they are criminal for giving the ball away. Gerrard is the worst example of it, a player of good technical ability but always wanting to play 40 yard + world cup passes. The Croatia game was a classic example. England were brutal for most of it but got themselves back to 2-2 and from there they should have taken the sting out of the game, and held onto the ball. but they gave it away repeatedly trying high/long balls up to Crouch.

[wee 162]

Originally Posted by TonySoprano
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I think he's a very good appointment in theory, in that he shoul be able to get them as far as it's possible to go

I would expect Owen Hargreaves to become a fixture in the side as a destroyer, something he's always had in his teams and for him to get defenders who can defend first, then worry about them getting forward.

His big problems come in personnel and the attitude of English players. None of their goalkeepers are International class and they have a real lack of quality up front, Rooney aside. That's coupled with no genuine left sided midfielder and nothing much down the right. You'd expect him to dump a couple of high profile players from the first team (my bets are Owen and Lampard) but whether he can change the attitude of players who want to bomb the ball forward at every opportunity is his big test.

I would expect something similar to Eriksson's reign, mainly cautious football and QF's, or with a lucky draw maybe a semi-final, at best cause they simply aren't any better than that.

Heard Garbiele Marcotti on Saturday morning on 5 Live with Steve Claridge and it was utterly hilarious. They were asked about what they thought his first team would be and Marcotti came up with a side which was basically Rooney playing on the left, Barry & Hargreaves in the middle with Gerrard, Joe Cole on the right, and Dean Ashton up front. Claridge just about had a stroke and was saying why no Lampard, Rooney on the left, and DEAN ASHTON! Gabrielle Marcottis reaction of "well he'll try to make them effective rather than fitiing in egos which aren't matched by their ability"
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[TonySoprano]

Originally Posted by wee 162
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Heard Garbiele Marcotti on Saturday morning on 5 Live with Steve Claridge and it was utterly hilarious. They were asked about what they thought his first team would be and Marcotti came up with a side which was basically Rooney playing on the left, Barry & Hargreaves in the middle with Gerrard, Joe Cole on the right, and Dean Ashton up front. Claridge just about had a stroke and was saying why no Lampard, Rooney on the left, and DEAN ASHTON! Gabrielle Marcottis reaction of "well he'll try to make them effective rather than fitiing in egos which aren't matched by their ability"
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Marcotti knows a hell of a lot more than most journos do about football, particularly Italian. I would imagine it will be something very similar to what he says, he played with Emerson and Diarra as holding midfielders at Real. Ashton is interesting, he would be a good focal point all though he's unfit as fuck at the moment. Rooney can't play up front as a main striker, and if he plays 'in the hole' he gets in Gerrard's way.

[Cuckoo Hill]

Originally Posted by TonySoprano
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Don't agree. They are forced to sit back because they are criminal for giving the ball away. Gerrard is the worst example of it, a player of good technical ability but always wanting to play 40 yard + world cup passes. The Croatia game was a classic example. England were brutal for most of it but got themselves back to 2-2 and from there they should have taken the sting out of the game, and held onto the ball. but they gave it away repeatedly trying high/long balls up to Crouch.

I agree with you there, but I didn't mention it because it is effectively out of Capello's hands: if the players can't retain the ball for their clubs they won't be able to do it for Capello.

[TonySoprano]

Originally Posted by Cuckoo Hill
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I agree with you there, but I didn't mention it because it is effectively out of Capello's hands: if the players can't retain the ball for their clubs they won't be able to do it for Capello.

I think he can, but it's his biggest problem. It's not like the players they have are rubbish, but if he picks 11 players who will do what he says then it might teach the billy big timers that they have to do it his way. Gerrard, despite the fact I think he's the most overrated player in Europe, could be a great player with a bit of discipline.

[AndyM]

Originally Posted by TonySoprano
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I think he can, but it's his biggest problem. It's not like the players they have are rubbish, but if he picks 11 players who will do what he says then it might teach the billy big timers that they have to do it his way. Gerrard, despite the fact I think he's the most overrated player in Europe, could be a great player with a bit of discipline.

Indeed. Mr Capello will not stand for any nonsense and there will be no indulgence of ego trippers the way Sven did and indeed the way Mclaren was pushed about by his players.

What I expect to see from Capello are a couple of things.
I would expect that the Beckham circus to be ended. Give him his 100th Cap and then be told to fcuk off back to the Pub League he plays in in the USA. First problem solved.
Next one is absolutely no tolerance for the vulgar circus that is the England WAGS. If the players are playing a match or indeed a series of matches away from home they are there to work - its not a fcuking extended holiday shopping trip for a load of empty headed women.
Iron discipline will rule and any one stepping out of line is history. Boozing and Nightclubbing is a definate no-no.

However the biggest problem he has is that the England players are technically not as good as the Italian, French, German, Argentinian and Brazilian players (I'd also argue the Portuguese, Czechs and Dutch are technically better too). England are simply not comfortable on the ball and at International level England's football is naive, often robust, but naive. The old failings of long ball lumping up the park, and bad discipline from players who think they are better than they actually are, and giving away cheap posession to opponents who will punish this sin brutally is something that Capello will not be able to fix.