Young Muslims begin dangerous fight for the right to abandon faith

[BurbankHibee]

Well, good luck to the guy and I hope he stays safe;

A group of young Muslim apostates launches a campaign today, the anniversary of the 9/11 attacks on America, to make it easier to renounce Islam.

The provocative move reflects a growing rift between traditionalists and a younger generation raised on a diet of Dutch tolerance.

The Committee for Ex-Muslims promises to campaign for freedom of religion but has already upset the Islamic and political Establishments for stirring tensions among the million-strong Muslim community in the Netherlands.

Ehsan Jami, the committee’s founder, who rejected Islam after the attack on the twin towers in 2001, has become the most talked-about public figure in the Netherlands. He has been forced into hiding after a series of death threats and a recent attack.

The Times

[Colr]

Progress. How refreshing.

[BurbankHibee]

Originally Posted by Colr

Progress. How refreshing.

His party has rounded on him already;

His outspoken attack on radical Islam has led to a prelaunch walk-out from fellow committee founder Loubna Berrada, who herself rejected Islam. She said: “I don’t wish to confront Islam itself. I only want to spread the message that Muslims should be allowed to leave Islam behind without being threatened.”

Well they aint going to get very far if they don't confront it.

[Brainwrong]

I was wondering where this section of the Muslim community might be. Nice to hear. And aye, I hope he stays safe too.

[am_moroccan]

Originally Posted by BurbankHibee

Well, good luck to the guy and I hope he stays safe;



The Times

As a muslim let me tell u something here. there have been thounsands in USA who revert to islam due to september events. after all propagandas about islam they were curious to know about islam and many of americans descovered the True islam which is not about TERROR that the american media always make it related to islam. why because the majority of american media is dominated by jews lobby. and no one of these reverts made a "Committee for Ex-chiritians".

for this guy, make sure mates that he is doing that for one thing ,it s about being famous and get the attention of the world media.that s all. he never knew the real meaning of islam. and there have been many examples like this guy : wafa sultan, Aymaan Hirsi Ali... and many others.

[barney]

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

why because the majority of american media is dominated by jews lobby. and no one of these reverts made a "Committee for Ex-chiritians".

oy vey

[am_moroccan]

Originally Posted by barney

oy vey

check them out mate. i meant the biggest media in USA. like FOX , CNN ,CBS....
http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

[Dr Shrink]

Catholic Jews or Protestant Jews?

It's important.

[am_moroccan]

Originally Posted by Dr Shrink

Catholic Jews or Protestant Jews?

It's important.
:Shrink2:

the zionists.
u still wanna kick me lol

[Burbank Lilywhite]

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

check them out mate. i meant the biggest media in USA. like FOX , CNN ,CBS....
http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/whorules.html

Ah yes, the old protocals of zion nonsense. I could tell you who really runs the media in the US. But you'll have to come to my compound.

That site is everything you just ranted about the committe of ex-muslims about.

[am_moroccan]

Originally Posted by Burbank Lilywhite

Ah yes, the old protocals of zion nonsense. I could tell you who really runs the media in the US. But you'll have to come to my compound.

That site is everything you just ranted about the committe of ex-muslims about.

i dont rely on that site only.
americans themselves confess that the media is conlrolled by some rich jews.

ps : as muslim am not an anti jews. but am anti the zionists .

[Burbank Lilywhite]

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

americans themselves confess that the media is conlrolled by some rich jews.

Only the wack jobs.

[HenryLB]

You think that Stormfront is a reliable source? It proclaims itself as a

Racialist discussion board for pro-White activists and anyone else interested in White survival

Linking to it is at best completely loopy and at worst highly offensive I'm afraid.

Serious question @ am_moroccan - what do you think should happen to islamic apostates?

[Dub]

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

As a muslim let me tell u something here. there have been thounsands in USA who revert to islam due to september events. after all propagandas about islam they were curious to know about islam and many of americans descovered the True islam which is not about TERROR that the american media always make it related to islam. why because the majority of american media is dominated by jews lobby. and no one of these reverts made a "Committee for Ex-chiritians".

for this guy, make sure mates that he is doing that for one thing ,it s about being famous and get the attention of the world media.that s all. he never knew the real meaning of islam. and there have been many examples like this guy : wafa sultan, Aymaan Hirsi Ali... and many others.

tbf Abdel the fundamentalist islamic terrorist types also make it fairly clear they are carrying out the attempted mass destruction of non islamic peoples because the Kuran tells them to so the Yanks arent really the ones wholly to blame for people believing the Kuran makes people violent. Most of us know it doesnt preach violence I think.

[am_moroccan]

Originally Posted by HenryLB

You think that Stormfront is a reliable source? It proclaims itself as a

Racialist discussion board for pro-White activists and anyone else interested in White survival

Linking to it is at best completely loopy and at worst highly offensive I'm afraid.

Serious question @ am_moroccan - what do you think should happen to islamic apostates?

As i said before i was not relying on that website only. and the domination of the US media by some jews is so clear. just google and see.

Henry, dont know why u jump to subject of islamic apostates. everyone has the right to choose the religion he wants and am giving u a verse from quran as proof :

2.255 : There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

[Burbank Lilywhite]

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

As the domination of the US media by some jews is so clear. just google and see.

Really, just how much do you know about the media in America?

Sweet fcuk all squared is my guess. Are you aware the largest media broadcaster in America is actually Hispanic, who are by and large practicing Roman Catholic's? Check out Telemundo and Univision, let me know who many individuals who practice Judaism you find.

Or perhaps here in Burbank, it's Armenian's who are majority Muslim who dominate the local media. And using that example are you aware that crime in Burbank and Glendale is dominated by Muslims? Just google the police activity reports and see.

[HenryLB]

[quote=am_moroccan;696183]As i said before i was not relying on that website only. and the domination of the US media by some jews is so clear. just google and see.


I'm sorry but I think that's nonsense. I'd be interested in seeing some of your other sources - preferably from a reputable publication or site.

It strikes me as ironic that you'd use a neo-nazi website to advance your idea. I assume you're of north african descent, so I rather wonder how far down their list you'd be.

Henry, dont know why u jump to subject of islamic apostates. everyone has the right to choose the religion he wants and am giving u a verse from quran as proof :

2.255 : There is no compulsion in religion; truly the right way has become clearly distinct from error; therefore, whoever disbelieves in the Shaitan and believes in Allah he indeed has laid hold on the firmest handle, which shall not break off, and Allah is Hearing, Knowing.

I was just genuinely interested in your view, and I know that apostasy is currently a lively issue in islam - I read a fascinating piece recently about an Egyptian couple who are trying to change their religion to christian and are having to go to court to do so. It's also the subject of this thread. Thanks for the quote.

[am_moroccan]

Originally Posted by Dub

tbf Abdel the fundamentalist islamic terrorist types also make it fairly clear they are carrying out the attempted mass destruction of non islamic peoples because the Kuran tells them to so the Yanks arent really the ones wholly to blame for people believing the Kuran makes people violent. Most of us know it doesnt preach violence I think.

Dub, the quran never tells muslims to kill people. if yes so i could do this as well.benji and zemmama will do that too.

Peace With Others:

Islam very strongly emphasizes on the rights which people have over each other. It seeks to perserve peace in society by training and urging its followers to fulfill the rights of each other. In Islam, salvation is not possible by just fulfilling the rights of God; one has to fulfill the rights of other human beings also.

Unfortnately, because of the Middle Eastern events of the last three decades, Islam has been branded by the media as a religion of violence. In recent years, the word "Islamic" has become one of the adjectives of "terrorism." In this backdrop, firstly, one must realize that the events in the Middle East can be fairly and fully understood only in the light of the post-WWI history of that region, in particular the promises given by the British to the Arabs. Secondly, no fair-minded person would allow himself to blame the religion of Islam for the wrong-doings of those who call themselves as Muslims. It is just like saying that the Catholic Church promotes violence and terrorism because of the Irish Republican Army's activites!

[am_moroccan]

[quote=HenryLB;696192]

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

As i said before i was not relying on that website only. and the domination of the US media by some jews is so clear. just google and see.


I'm sorry but I think that's nonsense. I'd be interested in seeing some of your other sources - preferably from a reputable publication or site.

It strikes me as ironic that you'd use a neo-nazi website to advance your idea. I assume you're of north african descent, so I rather wonder how far down their list you'd be.



I was just genuinely interested in your view, and I know that apostasy is currently a lively issue in islam - I read a fascinating piece recently about an Egyptian couple who are trying to change their religion to christian and are having to go to court to do so. It's also the subject of this thread. Thanks for the quote.

henry, let me tell u again that am not against jews or something like that.if u can read the history of moroccan jews then u would be very informed about how muslims and jews lived together for many centuries.

about the domination of jew on US media.that is very clear .

here is another source then : http://www.rense.com/general60/stun.htm

well, i dont think that u judge islam by that egyptian case. because if u do so i would judge the americans by what their soldiers have done in abu ghrib. egypt as a state is not representing the real islam. and if the converted chritians need to go the court so that s the egyptian law not the islamic law. religion is between the person and god not between a person and the state.

thanks for being interested on my view.

[Burbank Lilywhite]

Your reference material is out of date and wrong and becoming highly suspect.

MICHAEL EISNER, major owner of Walt Disney, Capitol Cities, ABC.

No longer connected with the company for over two years, was not a practioner of Juadaism.

DAVID WESTIN, president of ABC News

No longer connected with ABC News and was not a practioner of Judaism.


Considering this disclaimer on the bottom of the link,

Opinions expressed in various sections are the sole responsibility of their authors and they may not represent Al-Jazeerah's. editor@aljazeerah.info

Given the sources you are using for this incorrect and misguided belief I'm beginning to doubt the sincerity of this statement:

Originally Posted by am_moroccan

let me tell u again that am not against jews or something like that.

Are there a large number of individuals of Hewbrew/Jewish heritage in the American media, probably.

But there are also a large number of Irish Catholics individuals in the IT department of the Walt Disney Company. Does that mean Disney's IT is controlled by Irish Catholics who want to shape IT in a way that suites the Catholic Church and Irish goverment wishes? Using your sources logic I'd say yes it is.

Is there a plot by the American Jewish population to dominate the American media and thereby shape American politics and control the world? No more than a plot by Irish Catholics to control the largest media company in the world, and by default the American goverment and the world.