for those still under the impression that we are targetted because of iraq

[egb_hibs]

apparently there are claims some of the recent attacks are 'revenge' for rushdie's knighthood.

so am i right in saying, that now, it's not just a case of allowing our foreign policy (whether it's right or wrong) to be dictated by terrorism, we now just have to silence our writers or give them up to those that hate them?

still, i expect after those two small compromises, everything will be fine?

[Smurf]

Was just saying to Mrs Smurf that i'm still waiting to hear when Bali invaded Iraq.

[jockney green]

i personally dinnae believe that this is happenin because of iraq itself, i believe its a racially driven agenda fae a facistic-centric viewpoint against europeans

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by jockney green

i personally dinnae believe that this is happenin because of iraq itself, i believe its a racially driven agenda fae a facistic-centric viewpoint against europeans

New York isn't European..

Neither was Bali..

[egb_hibs]

i've been taking the daft approach of listening to what these guys have to say, rather than imagining them as ciphers for my own white liberal prejudices as many meeja commentators seem to.

they want to reestablish a caliphate. and then take it from there. they've really been rather clear about this as far as i can see.

[jockney green]

Originally Posted by Smurf

New York isn't European..

Neither was Bali..

apologies i should huv clarified, europeans an their descendants i believe are their target, as well as anyone who associates or who is a part of their cultures

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs

they want to reestablish a caliphate.

Exactly. Probably more than we imagine or are allowed to say.

[jockney green]

Originally Posted by Smurf

Exactly. Probably more than we imagine or are allowed to say.

so lets free oor minds an ungag oor mouths then

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by jockney green

so lets free oor minds an ungag oor mouths then

It's not our way but maybe it explains why they've not targetted anywhere in the USA since 9/11 whereas here in 'be more understanding and tolerant' UK...

[jockney green]

Originally Posted by Smurf

It's not our way but maybe it explains why they've not targetted anywhere in the USA since 9/11 whereas here in 'be more understanding and tolerant' UK...

possibly, soft targets are big business fur terrorism in an obvious operational capacity but also the scale of impact against the survivors which is a further useful tool

[egb_hibs]

it's shaping up that the target was a 'ladies night' at some club; presumably the intent was to shred a bunch of 'slags' with white hot nails.

i wonder how the guardianista narrative will reconcile this with their fantasises of osama guevera attacking the bastions of western capitalist imperialism.


i have no doubt they'll find a way.

failing that they'll turn up the heat on bemused anglicans.

[jockney green]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs

it's shaping up that the target was a 'ladies night' at some club; presumably the intent was to shred a bunch of 'slags' with white hot nails.

i wonder how the guardianista narrative will reconcile this with their fantasises of osama guevera attacking the bastions of western capitalist imperialism.


i have no doubt they'll find a way.

failing that they'll turn up the heat on bemused anglicans.

is it too far tae extrapolate this intae another attempt tae preventin the further breedin of the kafir?

thats what i love aboot the right-on kants is that they're right on prob in some intellectual or moral capacity but when it comes tae realities of whose gettin leathered an their reaction to gettin done they fail tae see how the victimhood can change around

an also its feckin easy tae finger point, as tony montana also said "so am the bad guy uh! what does that make you, good?"

[Purple & Green]

I couldnae get worked up about some shit book in the sub continent.

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by jockney green

as tony montana also said "so am the bad guy uh! what does that make you, good?"

that is it in a nutshell, especially as the establishment seem obsessed with defining ourselves as the bad guy.

[jockney green]

Originally Posted by Bobby S

I couldnae get worked up about some shit book in the sub continent.

dinnae worry, it'll prob be oot on DVD fur xmas (or is that eid-el-fitur)

[GalegoHibs]

Originally Posted by Smurf

Was just saying to Mrs Smurf that i'm still waiting to hear when Bali invaded Iraq.

At the same time is it a coincidence that the only three western countries (that i can think of) who have had Al Qaeda attacks on their territory were the three who were at the forefront of the invasion (call it what you will) of Iraq?

[GalegoHibs]

Originally Posted by Smurf

It's not our way but maybe it explains why they've not targetted anywhere in the USA since 9/11 whereas here in 'be more understanding and tolerant' UK...

Sorry to pick up on another of your posts but we are clearly at opposite ends of the spectrum on this non-Hibs issue. Are you seriously suggesting that if the UK went out and started bombing hell out of other countries at will, then we would stop suffering terrorist attacks?

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by GalegoHibs

Sorry to pick up on another of your posts but we are clearly at opposite ends of the spectrum on this non-Hibs issue. Are you seriously suggesting that if the UK went out and started bombing hell out of other countries at will, then we would stop suffering terrorist attacks?

Don't think i was suggesting that.

Tell me when did Bali invade Iraq?

Also 9/11 was some 18 months before the invasion of Iraq...

[alnewhaven]

Originally Posted by Smurf

Also 9/11 was some 18 months before the invasion of Iraq...

A lot of Americans believed that Saddam was involved in 9/11, maybe the jihadists thinking is equally confused.

Anybody think the timing of these may be connected to Blair stepping down

[GalegoHibs]

Originally Posted by Smurf

Don't think i was suggesting that.

Tell me when did Bali invade Iraq?

Also 9/11 was some 18 months before the invasion of Iraq...

Fair enough. I could have misunderstood the first point. Not sure what you were trying to say though with your suggestion that the UK has been too soft or whatever. Bali didn't invade Iraq but wasn't the attack there aimed principally at western tourists? Particularly Australians who I believe have/had a presence in Iraq. True that 9/11 was before the invasion of Iraq but there was no shortage of American interference in Arab countries' affairs prior to that particular invasion.

I was shocked by yesterday's attack, which very fortunately did not kill anyone other than (perhaps?)one of the perpetrators. But let's not lose sight of the fact that worse incidents than this are taking place in Iraq every single day.

This brings me back to the title of this thread. I am still under the impression that we are being targetted, chiefly, because of Iraq. It's not all about Iraq. Iraq is just the most high profile recent example of American led western aggression. If we withdrew from Iraq the terrorist threat would not go away but I do believe it would be significantly reduced.

[alnewhaven]

Originally Posted by GalegoHibs

Fair enough. I could have misunderstood the first point. Not sure what you were try