russians: bonkers

[egb_hibs]

look at the fine legacy of communism here chaps; nazi salutes and gay bashing. mind you the orthodox church would make pinko westie clerics blush an all

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btw richard fairbrass's muscles don't seem to do much good in practice do they? the blouse.

ps - the irony of course being that the commie-fascist boys look like they could be in right said fred. latents the lot of em.

[Dub]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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look at the fine legacy of communism here chaps; nazi salutes and gay bashing. mind you the orthodox church would make pinko westie clerics blush an all

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btw richard fairbrass's muscles don't seem to do much good in practice do they? the blouse.

ps - the irony of course being that the commie-fascist boys look like they could be in right said fred. latents the lot of em.

Not a very conciliatory stance taken in Russia eh EGB? That boy that
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tatchell needs to get some punching practice in, I think his timing was a bit off
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. Right wing right said fredders look like a bunch of nutters.

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Dub
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Not a very conciliatory stance taken in Russia eh EGB? That boy that
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tatchell needs to get some punching practice in, I think his timing was a bit off
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. Right wing right said fredders look like a bunch of nutters.

not much sympathy for that nonce tbh. but the russkis are bang out of order.

[psychocandy]

Tactchell=Grade A Prick

Was one of mugabe's key supporters, even supported violence against white farmers and then tried to perform a citizens arrest on him. Let's not forget how he buggered up the Bermondsey council (and the affect he had across south london)


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Can't condone homophobia, infact its totally out of order, but for that judas pinko tosser ill make an exception

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by jacktaylor
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Tactchell=Grade A Prick

Was one of mugabe's key supporters, even supported violence against white farmers and then tried to perform a citizens arrest on him. Let's not forget how he buggered up the Bermondsey council (and the affect he had across south london)

didn't know that, but it's a neat encapsulation of all thats wrong with pc - nothing to do with a consistent moral position, and all to do with blind support of this cause or that cos it's part of the dogma.

i also didn't know he'd rogered the whole of bermondsey council
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[psychocandy]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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didn't know that, but it's a neat encapsulation of all thats wrong with pc - nothing to do with a consistent moral position, and all to do with blind support of this cause or that cos it's part of the dogma.

i also didn't know he'd rogered the whole of bermondsey council
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my dad was a councillor in lewisham so since 1988 ive heard endless stories about tachell. He went against unionshe didnt agree with, wanted to withdraw from elections as a protest, wanted more direct action......basically he's a mad leftie with no focus/direction.

[Smurf]

The West was rushing to embrace Putin far too quickly..

Feck Blair did even before he replaced Yeltsin unelected.

Putin wasn't in the KGB all these years being a nice guy.

[HenryLB]

I have to diagree about Tatchell. His past is decidedly mental but nowadays I find him quite thought provoking. He generally discusses stuff that's very much outside the cosy liberal list of grievances as well.

And it's good to see the old "I'm not [xxxx] but..." getting wheeled out. Would you write "I'm not racist, but that black twat can feck off" or somesuch?

[tortohibee]

it was a peach of a punch though
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. thing is he will use it to his advantage. i remember someone shouting at him

" there is a cure for homosexuality pity it ended in 1945 "
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[Dub]

Originally Posted by Dub
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Not a very conciliatory stance taken in Russia eh EGB? That boy that
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tatchell needs to get some punching practice in, I think his timing was a bit off
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. Right wing right said fredders look like a bunch of nutters.

Wasnt condoning it EGB hence the smilies used to suggest humour.

[Dunc89]

Originally Posted by tortohibee
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" there is a cure for homosexuality pity it ended in 1945 "
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Bit of an odd comment, considering the rumours of homosexuality that riddled the Nazi party. Was Ernst Rohm, leader of the SA (think that's his name) not gay?

I always find gay bashing a bit weird. Why do some people care about it so much? Like that nail bomber in London. I think alot of it is people frightened of a part of themselves that they don't like, whether it be an incident from their past or whatever.

Ofcourse, once the mob mentality sets in, it spirals out of control.

[beefy]

It seems the Poles wanna rain on the(gay)parade.

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[egb_hibs]

these chaps come from a communist culture. they are steeped in a world view that sees danger in expressions of individualism that differentiate one from the socialist collective. moreover, they see their society in collapse and probably correlate that with 'western' influences, rather than the legacy of that same communism, and this will only magnify these sentiments. to be fair, the west has some of the same issues, but these boys have got everything erse over tit, as well as being general red nazi mentalists.

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by HenryLB
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I have to diagree about Tatchell. His past is decidedly mental but nowadays I find him quite thought provoking. He generally discusses stuff that's very much outside the cosy liberal list of grievances as well.

And it's good to see the old "I'm not [xxxx] but..." getting wheeled out. Would you write "I'm not racist, but that black twat can feck off" or somesuch?

if the 'black twat' headed up an organisation that argued for the legalisation of buggering children, then, yes; i'm sure he would attract a similar deficit of sympathy.

if some of the stuff i'd read attributed to tatchell is true - and it may not be, i'd be fucking punching the canute if he was trying to import it into my country. he is unfortunately a living vindication of the kind of suspicions we would denounce as homophobia. the gay movement should have nothing to do with him.

[HenryLB]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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if the 'black twat' headed up an organisation that argued for the legalisation of buggering children, then, yes; i'm sure he would attract a similar deficit of sympathy.

He doesn't. And your position is extraordinary - that it's fine to abuse people for their sexuality or race if they hold extreme views. It's probably an opinion shared by the nazis disrupting that march.

if some of the stuff i'd read attributed to tatchell is true - and it may not be, i'd be fucking punching the canute if he was trying to import it into my country. he is unfortunately a living vindication of the kind of suspicions we would denounce as homophobia. the gay movement should have nothing to do with him.

I suggest you look at your sources a little more closely.

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by HenryLB
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He doesn't.

He certainly did. Outrage campaigned for an AoC of 14, something redolent of the the unpleasant current in the underbelly of gay culture which has always liked a young chap. as i say, i think the gay rights movement should give him the elbow.

And your position is extraordinary - that it's fine to abuse people for their sexuality or race if they hold extreme views.

sorry if it offends you henry, but while i wouldn't deploy the law to shut the guy up - as long as he stays on the right side of putting forward a point, versus actively encouraging noncery - niether am i going to get upset cos he got a slap. i think the bolshevik thugs are out of order, cos they slapped him for a different reason, and i'm against that, but the man as an individual, with form for bigging up the nonce's manifesto - sorry, no sympathy. what are you on about race for btw? i was asserting a lack of sympathy for nonces, whatever colour.

It's probably an opinion shared by the nazis disrupting that march.

i wouldn't turn the law on them either, but once more, i'm not going to loose sleep if they get a bop in the kisser.

I suggest you look at your sources a little more closely.

Outrage's stance was pretty well known. as with all their hobby horses they hardly kept quiet about it.

the stuff whose provenance i'm unsure of is even more repellent, where tatchell
takes a pim fortuyn type line on all this subject, and goes way younger than 14 in a 'never did me any harm' kind of way. as i say, repellent stuff, which i have no trouble believing to be genuine and equally no trouble believing to be fake. either way, he's hung himself already in my eyes with the 14 year old thing.

ps - check this discussion of this same topic on the celtic board [Only Registered Users Can See Links. Click Here To Register] this contains stuff purportedly from a number of sources, ranging from the highly partial (such as fundy sites) to what looks like gay publications. make of it what you will, i;m certainly not putting the required searches into google to look further. it's also amusing to see a typical celtic fans discussion on such a subject - on one hand the achingly pc rentacause types who seem to exist more in cyberspace than reality, and on the other hand the rather more 'earthy' weegie cards of (self styled) legend.

[Smurf]

I think you're much more likely to win any arguement with Tatchell in the opposite side of the arguement..

What a feckin creep of a man he is. He absolutely did campaign for the age of consent to be dropped to 14. It's not a question of sexuality it's a qustion of paedophilia and i question anyones motives to reduce the consent from the current low enough 16...

Driving back from Newcastle last Friday i listened to the Right Said Fred gadgie who was attacked being interviewed on Five Live and his tone was quite refreshing.. Whilst obviously not defending the scum who attacked he did concede that thrusting ones opinions never gets anyone anywhere and if anything it just increases the discrimination..

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Smurf
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I think you're much more likely to win any arguement with Tatchell in the opposite side of the arguement..

What a feckin creep of a man he is. He absolutely did campaign for the age of consent to be dropped to 14. It's not a question of sexuality it's a qustion of paedophilia and i question anyones motives to reduce the consent from the current low enough 16...

that celtic thread i linked to reminded me of ricky gervais's take on this: how remarkably few 16 year old boys were to be seen on the protest marches, and how very many middle aged men.

[Smurf]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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that celtic thread i linked to reminded me of ricky gervais's take on this: how remarkably few 16 year old boys were to be seen on the protest marches, and how very many middle aged men.

I'd suggest - ok this is homophobic - that there's a more obvious interest in young boys from many more Homosexual men than young girls from Hetrosexual men..

Although of course i'd suggest that there's still a huge problem with the latter i'd say that as the former only make up less than 5% of the population...