Scotland to have it's own olympic team

[PILTONSTANY]

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com...m?id=782722007

It emerged last night that Alex Salmond is to seek permission from the International Olympic Committee for Scotland to field its own team in the 2012 Games in London.

Scotland's new First Minister is to hold talks with the country's main sporting bodies within the next 100 days to draft a formal application.

Separate representation at the Games has long been an SNP ambition, with Salmond believing that Scottish sport has been in Britain's shadow for too long.

Good idea,
We have our own team in virtually every other sport anyway.

[Colr]

Good to see him focusing on the important things like the economy not resorting to headline grabbing gestures.

[PILTONSTANY]

Originally Posted by Colr

Good to see him focusing on the important things like the economy not resorting to headline grabbing gestures.

It is actually a few wee lines at the bottom of a story about PFI prisons,Hardly headline grabbing.
If it happens then England would have the same,Surely

[SkyeHibs]

Originally Posted by Colr

Good to see him focusing on the important things like the economy not resorting to headline grabbing gestures.

Building a dynamic prosperous Scotland is the goal. Achieving success in our own right as a sporting nation is an important tonic.

[Colr]

Originally Posted by PILTONSTANY

It is actually a few wee lines at the bottom of a story about PFI prisons,Hardly headline grabbing.
If it happens then England would have the same,Surely

Couldn't give a shit. The Olympics bore the keech out of me. I'll be renting my house out and pissing off the the Med for a fortnight in 2012.

Though if they are going to be a separate nation rather than part of the host nation we can stop placing contracts with Scottish firms for the construction and cancel the use of Hamdem for the football tournament.

[PILTONSTANY]

Originally Posted by Colr

Though if they are going to be a separate nation rather than part of the host nation we can stop placing contracts with Scottish firms for the construction and cancel the use of Hamdem for the football tournament.

Why?
The Rugby union World Cup is being hosted between different competing nations with no problems.

[Hampden_Hibby]

Originally Posted by Colr

Though if they are going to be a separate nation rather than part of the host nation we can stop placing contracts with Scottish firms for the construction and cancel the use of Hamdem for the football tournament.

I don't think the Single European act (1986) which established the European single market would allow for that!

And then we'd need to throw out Bechtel Corporation, CH2M Hill, Jacobs Engineering, Kellogg, Brown & Root and Parsons Brinckerhoff who are all United States contractors bidding for 2012 Olympics work since the USA also has a separate team from mother England.

[Tibs]

Originally Posted by PILTONSTANY

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com...m?id=782722007

It emerged last night that Alex Salmond is to seek permission from the International Olympic Committee for Scotland to field its own team in the 2012 Games in London.

Scotland's new First Minister is to hold talks with the country's main sporting bodies within the next 100 days to draft a formal application.

Separate representation at the Games has long been an SNP ambition, with Salmond believing that Scottish sport has been in Britain's shadow for too long.

Good idea,
We have our own team in virtually every other sport anyway.

Hope this doesnt happen. The olympics is the one time when there's a feeling of positivity around being British. anyway it'll be pretty dull for us if there's a scottish team, we usually only have a handful of scottish people in contention for medals. also we have no decent sprinters, which is my favourite event. keep it as it is.

[persevered]

Originally Posted by Tibs

Hope this doesnt happen. The olympics is the one time when there's a feeling of positivity around being British. anyway it'll be pretty dull for us if there's a scottish team, we usually only have a handful of scottish people in contention for medals. also we have no decent sprinters, which is my favourite event. keep it as it is.

It won't happen.

I like the Olymics but have to turn down the sound everytime that fucking horrible anthem is played. I prefer to support the French sprinters, We have as much of a reason to support them than to support the English team.

[cavalier]

Originally Posted by Colr

Couldn't give a shit. The Olympics bore the keech out of me. I'll be renting my house out and pissing off the the Med for a fortnight in 2012.

Though if they are going to be a separate nation rather than part of the host nation we can stop placing contracts with Scottish firms for the construction and cancel the use of Hamdem for the football tournament.

Fine, they can stop taking our tax money and dosh from Scottish 'good causes' via the lottery.

Cant have it both ways

[sKipper]

Originally Posted by cavalier

Fine, they can stop taking our tax money and dosh from Scottish 'good causes' via the lottery.

Cant have it both ways

Exactly. Is anyone else noticing that the narrow nationalistic types on this board are prone to being Rule Brittania orientated ?

[Keepitgreen]

Originally Posted by PILTONSTANY

http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com...m?id=782722007

It emerged last night that Alex Salmond is to seek permission from the International Olympic Committee for Scotland to field its own team in the 2012 Games in London.

Scotland's new First Minister is to hold talks with the country's main sporting bodies within the next 100 days to draft a formal application.

Separate representation at the Games has long been an SNP ambition, with Salmond believing that Scottish sport has been in Britain's shadow for too long.

Good idea,
We have our own team in virtually every other sport anyway.

Dunno, I'm yawning a bit at this news.

Thought it was gestures like this that the 'new SNP' would spend less time on and more time on real life issues?

Salmond's started the roughing up already.

[HibeeJibee]

Sceptical about the IOC allowing this. No other non-independent nation/self-governing territory is allowed an Olympic team. Places like Catalonia, Quebec, Basques are more independent than Scotland currently is. Also causes some problems - does the athlete development budget no longer have a Scottish portion? Do we not pay for any of the London facilities (actually this gets better by the minute......)? How do we set-up an Olympic authority, with all the infrastrucure, from nothing in a couple of years? Its odd.

[Tibs]

what would happen to the Welsh and Northern Irish athletes if Scotland went alone? would there still be a British team, just minus Scotland? can't see how there could be a British team competing alongside a Scottish team, it would mean that athletes from Scotland would be eligible to compete for two different teams?

[HibeeJibee]

Yes Tibs, another good point. All the Scottish athletes would be allowed to compete for Britain if they wanted, since they were born in (and most would have competed for) the British IOC. We would likely face 'incentives' from Unionist and Nationalist camps in sport to attract them one way or another. It won't happen anyway, the IOC will reject it out of hand (if anything because so many IOC officials are British/English, and because they need Scottish money to pay for London 2012). It's a non-starter I think.

[cavalier]

Originally Posted by HibeeJibee

Yes Tibs, another good point. All the Scottish athletes would be allowed to compete for Britain if they wanted, since they were born in (and most would have competed for) the British IOC. We would likely face 'incentives' from Unionist and Nationalist camps in sport to attract them one way or another. It won't happen anyway, the IOC will reject it out of hand (if anything because so many IOC officials are British/English, and because they need Scottish money to pay for London 2012). It's a non-starter I think.

The ones that compete for Britain would then be either exiled, deported, jailed or executed then!

[HibeeJibee]

It would be like Peter Nichol, but bus loads of them. He was a right sh*t that Nichol.

[Colr]

Originally Posted by cavalier

Fine, they can stop taking our tax money and dosh from Scottish 'good causes' via the lottery.

Cant have it both ways

This's rich. We're paying for the Olympics with a tax hike. The Government money is paying for urban regneration elements (spending which has been non-existent in London compared with the north) and the Lottery is a voluntary tax so if you don't like it don't buy a ticket.

[hibadelic]

Originally Posted by Colr

Couldn't give a shit. The Olympics bore the keech out of me. I'll be renting my house out and pissing off the the Med for a fortnight in 2012.

Though if they are going to be a separate nation rather than part of the host nation we can stop placing contracts with Scottish firms for the construction and cancel the use of Hamdem for the football tournament.

It's my ball and I'm not playing.

[Colr]

Originally Posted by hibadelic

It's my ball and I'm not playing.

Its our oil and we're not playing?

[hibadelic]

Originally Posted by HibeeJibee

Sceptical about the IOC allowing this. No other non-independent nation/self-governing territory is allowed an Olympic team.

Taiwan competes as Chinese Taipei.

Originally Posted by HibeeJibee

Places like Catalonia, Quebec, Basques are more independent than Scotland currently is.

In what way?

Originally Posted by HibeeJibee

Also causes some problems - does the athlete development budget no longer have a Scottish portion? Do we not pay for any of the London facilities (actually this gets better by the minute......)? How do we set-up an Olympic authority, with all the infrastrucure, from nothing in a couple of years? Its odd.

We could just keep all that stuff the same and compete under the name Scotland. You seem to be making problems where there aren't any.