census: do you have irish roots - HibeesBounce.com

**egb_hibs** · 13-02-07, 08:47

with reference to some of the spouting of hibby huns lately, i'm conducting this poll.

can you trace irish roots on either side of your family (or indeed, are irish yourself). this has nothing to do with religion, whether your catholic, prod or atheist is entirely beside the point of the question.

Seven Tattoos · 13-02-07, 08:51

yES. Both sides and I'm a Proddie.

But not Orange.

There is a difference.

Brainwrong · 13-02-07, 08:59

I voted Yes before fully reading the question (I only read; do you have Irish roots). My dads' folks were both second generation Irish his mother Cathoic and his father Protestant. My dad went with being a proddie but has since lost his faith/woken up (in my opinion).
However my mums folks are of Shetland & Norwegian decent, both catholic.

Smurf · 13-02-07, 09:05

Yes. Faithers side..

**green_goddess** · 13-02-07, 09:14

Yes, on my mums side.

Colr · 13-02-07, 09:17

None. All Scottish. I'm an aethiest but attended CoE, methodist, penticostal and Cof S schools/churches in my youth

**Bannox** · 13-02-07, 09:23

Irish roots?

I havent got any Roots

But anyway None at all

**DarrenSQH** · 13-02-07, 09:25

Yes from Donegal.

Toolpusher · 13-02-07, 09:25

Irish on my Dad's side, County Cork I think. Not sure how many generations removed from the old country though, a fair few. Family always Protestant as far as I know, but none of us go near a Church bar weddings and funerals, I'm an Atheist myself.

**wee 162** · 13-02-07, 09:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by Seven Tattoos

yES. Both sides and I'm a Proddie.

But not Orange.

There is a difference.

Damn right there is!

**egb_hibs** · 13-02-07, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Colr

None. All Scottish. I'm an aethiest but attended CoE, methodist, penticostal and Cof S schools/churches in my youth

suddenly a lot of things make sense

Stu · 13-02-07, 09:42

Dad's side. County Donegal

**egb_hibs** · 13-02-07, 09:46

the poll - and responses - thus far, reflect my suspicions; namely that there is a considerable degree of continuity in the support today, in terms of the club's origins in the irish community, and that this has probably been lost in previous polls that have focussed on catholicism. as has been noted by others, there's a huge difference between prod and orange, and also our many atheists of irish descent would demur from ticking the catholic box.

all this is of course to an extent incidental, and those without a drop of irish blood are as central to hibbiedom as those with. at the risk of being premature, it is however, i think, a bit of a rebuke to the hibby huns, and maybe a bit of a correction to their world view; ie tis they who are the (vanishingly) small component of our support base

**Lix** · 13-02-07, 09:47

None whatsoever ... Scottish as far back as anyone's been able to trace ...

Brought up CoS, but totally atheist now...

**green_goddess** · 13-02-07, 09:52

Forgot to mention that I'm an atheist with Irish roots.

**southfieldhibby** · 13-02-07, 09:57

Aye, my granma (mums side) was born in rosscarbery in county cork.

The__Proclaimer · 13-02-07, 10:11

I think a lot of you middle aged Hibbies have grown up with Irish grannies, I'm of the generation who've got long gone 'great' or 'great great' Irish grannies. In my book that makes me as Irish as a pint of Guinness poured in Tamsons. Interesting to know where it came from but not that relevant to my life today.

I also think that's why a lot of older Hibees have a antipathy towards Celtic while everyone I know around my age or younger despises them equally with Rangers.

Tibs · 13-02-07, 10:12

on my dads side.

i wonder what kind of results you'd get with hearts supporters if you asked them the same question? obviously not everyone supports hibs because of our clubs' irish roots but are people in edinburgh who do have irish roots (and who dont support celtic) attracted to hibs/put off hearts?

**egb_hibs** · 13-02-07, 10:16

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Originally Posted by The__Proclaimer

I think a lot of you middle aged Hibbies have grown up with Irish grannies, I'm of the generation who've got long gone 'great' or 'great great' Irish grannies. In my book that makes me as Irish as a pint of Guinness poured in Tamsons. Interesting to know where it came from but not that relevant to my life today.

I also think that's why a lot of older Hibees have a antipathy towards Celtic while everyone I know around my age or younger despises them equally with Rangers.

1. so your answer is 'yes' then?

2. do you really mean 'antipathy'?

ps - I think older hibbies hate rangers more because we travelled to ibrox in the 70s and 80s.

**Kenny** · 13-02-07, 10:16

very very distant but they are there....

nothing tangable...you'd find irish blood in a sizable population of families from west scotland...I don't have edinburgh roots as such family moved to leith just before I was born

The__Proclaimer · 13-02-07, 10:25

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb_hibs

1. so your answer is 'yes' then?

2. do you really mean 'antipathy'?

ps - I think older hibbies hate rangers more because we travelled to ibrox in the 70s and 80s.

1. How far do you want to go back? We've all got 'roots' from several foreign countries in our D.N.A.

2. 'God Save The Queen' gets booed every time its struck up by away fans at Easter Road, the 'Soldier Song' is greeted with silence. Both have no place in Scotland in a non-international match. I mentioned it the other day but some folk listed top 10 clubs they hated which included teams like Lazio, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Airdrie, Man United etc but no Celtic. Why?

**egb_hibs** · 13-02-07, 10:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by the Proclaimer

1. How far do you want to go back? We've all got 'roots' from several foreign countries in our D.N.A.

as far back as the formation of the club seems as good a rule as in any in this context?

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2. 'God Save The Queen' gets booed every time its struck up by away fans at Easter Road, the 'Soldier Song' is greeted with silence. Both have no place in Scotland in a non-international match. I mentioned it the other day but some folk listed top 10 clubs they hated which included teams like Lazio, Real Madrid, Chelsea, Airdrie, Man United etc but no Celtic. Why?

I dunno - many (cyber) hibbies are lefties perhaps? the common denominator between the teams you've listed is that they're seen as 'right wing' which is probably largely generalising hokum, but that's football supporters for you. the exception is manure and they're probably hated as the poster-child for football PLC.

But in any case, my point was I don't think you meant 'antipathy' - that means dislike or hostility, and doesn't really fit with what I thought you were trying to say. did you mean 'affinity'?

**Kenny** · 13-02-07, 10:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by egb_hibs

as far back as the formation of the club seems as good a rule as in any in this context?

change me to no then....

View Poll Results: do you have irish roots on one or both sides of your family?
Yes	118	71.95%
No	46	28.05%
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egb_hibs Khmer Radge Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: From the Capital Posts: 19,706 Casino cash: £23089 vCash: 10000 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Rep Power: 28	census: do you have irish roots with reference to some of the spouting of hibby huns lately, i'm conducting this poll. can you trace irish roots on either side of your family (or indeed, are irish yourself). this has nothing to do with religion, whether your catholic, prod or atheist is entirely beside the point of the question. __________________ "Twice a year Gordon Brown fills his party's sails with pride. His tornado of facts and figures magics up images of untold national wealth and success." P Toynbee, Guardian, Dec 06

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Seven Tattoos Timothy Claypole Radge Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Cardiff Age: 37 Posts: 1,913 Casino cash: £250 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: census: do you have irish roots yES. Both sides and I'm a Proddie. But not Orange. There is a difference. __________________ Hiiiiiiiiiiiiigh Fiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive!

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DarrenSQH Radge Flag Owner and Private Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Queensferry Posts: 3,226 Casino cash: £3006 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 3 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 10	Re: census: do you have irish roots Yes from Donegal.

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Toolpusher Moths in the Wallet Radge Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Edinburgh, and proud of it Age: 43 Posts: 1,222 Casino cash: £250 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: census: do you have irish roots Irish on my Dad's side, County Cork I think. Not sure how many generations removed from the old country though, a fair few. Family always Protestant as far as I know, but none of us go near a Church bar weddings and funerals, I'm an Atheist myself.

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Stu Maple Leaf Radge Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Redhill, Nottingham Posts: 3,391 Casino cash: £5865 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 19 Thanked 33 Times in 26 Posts Rep Power: 13	Re: census: do you have irish roots Dad's side. County Donegal __________________ *The Tears of a Clown*

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egb_hibs Khmer Radge Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: From the Capital Posts: 19,706 Casino cash: £23089 vCash: 10000 My Mood: Thanks: 0 Thanked 5 Times in 5 Posts Rep Power: 28	Re: census: do you have irish roots the poll - and responses - thus far, reflect my suspicions; namely that there is a considerable degree of continuity in the support today, in terms of the club's origins in the irish community, and that this has probably been lost in previous polls that have focussed on catholicism. as has been noted by others, there's a huge difference between prod and orange, and also our many atheists of irish descent would demur from ticking the catholic box. all this is of course to an extent incidental, and those without a drop of irish blood are as central to hibbiedom as those with. at the risk of being premature, it is however, i think, a bit of a rebuke to the hibby huns, and maybe a bit of a correction to their world view; ie tis they who are the (vanishingly) small component of our support base __________________ "Twice a year Gordon Brown fills his party's sails with pride. His tornado of facts and figures magics up images of untold national wealth and success." P Toynbee, Guardian, Dec 06

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Lix Sharky Radge Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Sunny Leith/London Age: 21 Posts: 2,180 Casino cash: £3847 vCash: 9969190 My Mood: Thanks: 35 Thanked 30 Times in 16 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: census: do you have irish roots None whatsoever ... Scottish as far back as anyone's been able to trace ... Brought up CoS, but totally atheist now... __________________

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southfieldhibby Off the fags and feeling Radge Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: EH15 Posts: 3,126 Casino cash: £5066 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 4 Thanked 27 Times in 15 Posts Rep Power: 10	Re: census: do you have irish roots Aye, my granma (mums side) was born in rosscarbery in county cork. __________________ Just say no to Viennese Actionism kids.

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The__Proclaimer A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: The Sunshine Age: 25 Posts: 3,983 Casino cash: £2597 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: census: do you have irish roots I think a lot of you middle aged Hibbies have grown up with Irish grannies, I'm of the generation who've got long gone 'great' or 'great great' Irish grannies. In my book that makes me as Irish as a pint of Guinness poured in Tamsons. Interesting to know where it came from but not that relevant to my life today. I also think that's why a lot of older Hibees have a antipathy towards Celtic while everyone I know around my age or younger despises them equally with Rangers. __________________ 'I'd rather see my sister in a brothel than my brother in a Hearts scarf'

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Tibs A True Gadgie/Gadgess Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Edinburgh Posts: 1,243 Casino cash: £3374 vCash: 10000 Thanks: 0 Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post Rep Power: 5	Re: census: do you have irish roots on my dads side. i wonder what kind of results you'd get with hearts supporters if you asked them the same question? obviously not everyone supports hibs because of our clubs' irish roots but are people in edinburgh who do have irish roots (and who dont support celtic) attracted to hibs/put off hearts?

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Kenny Radge Private Member Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glasgow Posts: 4,270 Casino cash: £6296 vCash: 25700 Thanks: 5 Thanked 2 Times in 2 Posts Rep Power: 11	Re: census: do you have irish roots very very distant but they are there.... nothing tangable...you'd find irish blood in a sizable population of families from west scotland...I don't have edinburgh roots as such family moved to leith just before I was born __________________