census: do you have irish roots

[HibeeN]

Yep - Dad's side but quite a bit back. Nothing really that makes me feel any connection to Ireland, but it's there.

[Littlejohn]

Originally Posted by Pilrig
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How can any sane person be anti-Irish ?

Maybe they've been a victim of Irish terrorism, or Irish bogus workmen or have been sexually abused by an Irish priest. There's a multitude of reasons why a sane person might be anti Irish, just like thare are many reasons why sane people might be anti Scottish or English.

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Littlejohn
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Maybe they've been a victim of Irish terrorism, or Irish bogus workmen or have been sexually abused by an Irish priest. There's a multitude of reasons why a sane person might be anti Irish, just like thare are many reasons why sane people might be anti Scottish or English.

hmmm. don;t buy that. apply that logic to someone mugged by a black person

[Colr]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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hmmm. don;t buy that. apply that logic to someone mugged by a black person

How do you mean you "don't buy it". Its not reasonable but you can understand, whilst not condoning, the thought process which is a byproduct of the way we generally stereotype and classify people - in itself a dehumanising process but one which is, to some expetent necessary in a large urban society.

[HailHail]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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hmmm. don;t buy that. apply that logic to someone mugged by a black person

Indeed EGB, that would be like someone hating German's cos their grandfather was a POW or someone hating say, spaniards because they got robbed in Spain on holiday.Alas though, you do get such small minded morons, like folk who think irishness or tricolours automatically means IRA.

A few folk have challenged my erm, music collection and wall memorabeilia after what happened to me in Ireland, but it's awfuly racist and small minded to be anti something just because of the actions of a few scumbags, and every nationality has them anyway.

In most cases I reckon it's 'cos their wife/bird has been getting rammed off an Irish guy hehe.

[Littlejohn]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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hmmm. don;t buy that. apply that logic to someone mugged by a black person

It's not logical. If someone is the victim of a mugging by a black person they may well end up being anti black. It is unreasonable, but doesn't mean that they're not sane.

[Northern Ireland Hibby]

Originally Posted by HailHail
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Indeed EGB, that would be like someone hating German's cos their grandfather was a POW or someone hating say, spaniards because they got robbed in Spain on holiday.Alas though, you do get such small minded morons, like folk who think irishness or tricolours automatically means IRA.

I find that most ex-pat Irish or persons outside Ireland with Irish Nationalist sympathies tend to lean towards SF as opposed to SDLP, as they are removed from the situation and from a balanced media.

No?

Tricolours flown/ shown outside Ireland do tend to mean that Irish Republicanism isn't too far away.

[HailHail]

Originally Posted by Northern Ireland Hibby
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I find that most ex-pat Irish or persons outside Ireland with Irish Nationalist sympathies tend to lean towards SF as opposed to SDLP, as they are removed from the situation and from a balanced media.

No?

Tricolours flown/ shown outside Ireland do tend to mean that Irish Republicanism isn't too far away.

folk do make assumptions based on very little sometimes Conor. In the same way granted that some get a giggle when they see a guy in a rangers top, burberry cap and kappa tracksuit bottoms. O r hear what they would class as a 'weegie' accent. Edinburgh racism at it's finest.

Agree with what you said though, some can't differentiate between agreeing with republicanism and 'supporting' the mask wearing chib weilding skag dealing gangsters.

[Colr]

Originally Posted by Northern Ireland Hibby
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Tricolours flown/ shown outside Ireland do tend to mean that Irish Republicanism isn't too far away.

I usually find it means that a pint of Guinness isn't far away = especially around 17th March.
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[Northern Ireland Hibby]

Originally Posted by Colr
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I usually find it means that a pint of Guinness isn't far away = especially around 17th March.
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Fair point.

Outside the bar trade, then, (where the Irish flag is just a prop) I find that most ex-pat Irish who have a view or persons outside Ireland with Irish Nationalist sympathies tend to lean towards SF as opposed to SDLP.

[Colr]

Originally Posted by Northern Ireland Hibby
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Fair point.

Outside the bar trade, then, (where the Irish flag is just a prop) I find that most ex-pat Irish who have a view or persons outside Ireland with Irish Nationalist sympathies tend to lean towards SF as opposed to SDLP.

Wouldn't the world be a betteer place if flags were just props?

[Northern Ireland Hibby]

Originally Posted by Colr
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Wouldn't the world be a betteer place if flags were just props?

Belfast would certainly be a much, much better place.

[wee 162]

Originally Posted by Littlejohn
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Maybe they've been a victim of Irish terrorism, or Irish bogus workmen or have been sexually abused by an Irish priest. There's a multitude of reasons why a sane person might be anti Irish, just like thare are many reasons why sane people might be anti Scottish or English.

To the best of my knowledge I've never been attacked by anyone English, Irish, or Welsh. I have been attacked by Scottish people. Should I be anti-scottish?

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Colr
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How do you mean you "don't buy it". Its not reasonable but you can understand, whilst not condoning, the thought process which is a byproduct of the way we generally stereotype and classify people - in itself a dehumanising process but one which is, to some expetent necessary in a large urban society.

i mean i don't sympathise, because it's not a rational response. sure i can see why it happens, but i'm not going to condone it - that sort of thing is the basis of most prejudice.

i agree it doesn't literally make some 'insane' but i'm sure Al was using a colloquial way and he'd be happy to substitute 'irrational' which would be absolutely true.

[ELWisty]

My dad's side of the family is Irish, from Co Mayo: Ballina, Crossmolina, Westport, Achill. I spent most of my summers as an ankle-biter on the Curraune peninsula - some of the most spectacular scenery I've ever come across.

My mum's side of the family is a mixture of Scots presbyterian and English episcopalian, so - like everyone, if you go back far enough - I'm a mongrel.

As far as religion goes, I was raised a catholic and am now an agnostic. I have views about Irish politcs as well, but none of that's got anything to do with me being a hibby.

[Bill Oddies Beard]

Aye. faithers ma was from a wee toon in County Down.

[mick1875]

My Dads from Swinford, Co Mayo My mum is from Roscommon I have 4 sisters and 1 brother all born In yorkshire we would consider ourselves Yorkshire rather than English. We tend to be anti central Government rather then anti anyone else. None of my Family supported Hibs at anytime in their lives. My Father taught us respect for all people and said social conditions/situations make people bad and I for 1 believe him. But he forgot about oil though.Remember Guy Fawkes was a Yorkshireman

[Forzahibs]

Originally Posted by mick1875
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My Dads from Swinford, Co Mayo My mum is from Roscommon I have 4 sisters and 1 brother all born In yorkshire we would consider ourselves Yorkshire rather than English. We tend to be anti central Government rather then anti anyone else. None of my Family supported Hibs at anytime in their lives. My Father taught us respect for all people and said social conditions/situations make people bad and I for 1 believe him. But he forgot about oil though.Remember Guy Fawkes was a Yorkshireman

Eeeee by eck am gonna blow that parliament reet up once av ett me black puddin
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Do you live near Barnstoneworth
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[Colr]

Originally Posted by mick1875
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........... we would consider ourselves Yorkshire rather than English. ............

are you sure?
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[Harry the Hibee]

On my mum's side yes, and I'm proud of it.

Erin Go Bragh!!