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Hoodo · 23-09-06, 15:38

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I hope so, but only if he died of an illness.If the US got him etc. then he would be made even more of a martyr to the extremists.

Colr · 23-09-06, 15:48

Wathc that link. It caused a bit of a crash on my machine.

Hoodo · 23-09-06, 15:52

Here it is then - PARIS - President Jacques Chirac said Saturday that information contained in a leaked intelligence document raising the possibility that Osama bin Laden may have died of typhoid in Pakistan last month is “in no way whatsoever confirmed.”

Chirac said he was “a bit surprised” at the leak and has asked Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to probe how a document from a French foreign intelligence service was published in the French press.

The regional newspaper l’Est Republicain on Saturday printed what it described as a copy of a confidential document from the DGSE intelligence service citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that the leader of the al-Qaida terror network had died.

The DGSE transmitted the document, dated Sept. 21 or Thursday, to Chirac and other top French officials, the newspaper said.

“This information is in no way whatsoever confirmed,” Chirac said Saturday when asked about the document. “I have no comment.”

In Washington, CIA duty officer Paul Gimigliano said he could not confirm the DGSE report.

The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the Internet.

“We’ve seen nothing from any al-Qaida messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Osama bin Laden,” IntelCenter director Ben N. Venzke told The Associated Press.

Last date known is June 29
Al-Qaida would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government.

“They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it,” he said.

The last time the IntelCenter says it could be sure bin Laden was alive was June 29, when al-Qaida released an audiotape in which the terror leader eulogized the death of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq earlier that month.

Chirac spoke at a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France, where the leaders were holding a summit.

Putin suggested that leaks can be ways to manipulate. “When there are leaks ... one can say that (they) were done especially.”

Earlier the French defense ministry said it was opening an investigation into the leak.

“The information diffused this morning by the l’Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed,” a Defense Ministry statement said.

The DGSE, or Direction Generale des Services Exterieurs, indicated that its information came from a single source.

“According to a reliable source, Saudi security services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead,” said the intelligence report.

There have been periodic reports of bin Laden’s illness or death in recent years but none has been proven accurate.

According to this report, Saudi security services were pursuing further details, notably the place of his burial.

“The chief of al-Qaida was a victim of a severe typhoid crisis while in Pakistan on August 23, 2006,” the document says. His geographic isolation meant that medical assistance was impossible, the French report said, adding that his lower limbs were allegedly paralyzed.

The report further said Saudi security services had their first information on bin Laden’s alleged death on Sept. 4.

In Pakistan, a senior official of that country’s top spy agency, the ISI or Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence, said he had no information to confirm bin Laden’s whereabouts or that he might be dead. The official said he believed the report could be fabricated. The official was not authorized to speak publicly on the topic and spoke on condition of anonymity.

U.S. Embassy officials in Pakistan and Afghanistan also said they could not confirm the French report.

Gen. Henri Bentegeat, the French army chief of staff, said in a radio debate last Sunday that bin Laden’s fate remained a mystery.

“Today, bin Laden is certainly not in Afghanistan,” Bentegeat said. “No one is completely certain that he is even alive.”

Pilrig · 23-09-06, 19:54

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I hope so, but only if he died of an illness.If the US got him etc. then he would be made even more of a martyr to the extremists.

No, he's still alive and changed his name to Alan Freeland

Smurf · 23-09-06, 20:57

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No, he's still alive and changed his name to Alan Freeland

Lets kidnap him and claim the $25 Million CIA ransom reward..

**PILTONSTANY** · 23-09-06, 21:05

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No, he's still alive and changed his name to Alan Freeland

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Lets kidnap him and claim the $25 Million CIA ransom reward..

No lets stick him in a Hearts top and tie him up on Pennywell Rd
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**tortohibee** · 24-09-06, 10:45

on a similar line did anyone hear about the us soldiers being mutilated in iraq. the video is horrendous and i aint posting the link as it is grusome.
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feckin savages

Mujahideen Shura Council Release Video showing the Burning of 2 US Soldiers
Saturday, September 23 2006

Terrorist Group Mujahideen Shura Council released a video titled In Member of the Sunnah of Our Ancestors in Mutilating the Infidels. The video shows two US soldiers being mutilaed by the insurgency group in Iraq. According to Mujahideen Shura Council, the two soldiers, Pfc. Thomas L T, 25, and Pfc. Kristian M, 23,were part of the brigade that raped and burned Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, and killed her family in al-Mahmoudiya back in June 2006. They were also the same soldiers that were shown in a video that was released on July 10th 2006 with their bodies already mutilated. This video contains more footage of them being tied to a truck and then dragged for a few minutes before then being set on fire and burned.

Note: the above information could not be verified by our staff

**cavalier** · 24-09-06, 11:17

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on a similar line did anyone hear about the us soldiers being mutilated in iraq. the video is horrendous and i aint posting the link as it is grusome.
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feckin savages

Mujahideen Shura Council Release Video showing the Burning of 2 US Soldiers
Saturday, September 23 2006

Terrorist Group Mujahideen Shura Council released a video titled In Member of the Sunnah of Our Ancestors in Mutilating the Infidels. The video shows two US soldiers being mutilaed by the insurgency group in Iraq. According to Mujahideen Shura Council, the two soldiers, Pfc. Thomas L T, 25, and Pfc. Kristian M, 23,were part of the brigade that raped and burned Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, and killed her family in al-Mahmoudiya back in June 2006. They were also the same soldiers that were shown in a video that was released on July 10th 2006 with their bodies already mutilated. This video contains more footage of them being tied to a truck and then dragged for a few minutes before then being set on fire and burned.

Note: the above information could not be verified by our staff

They are not a violent religion though!!!
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**tortohibee** · 24-09-06, 11:40

MIND YOU THE AMERICANS ARE JUST AS BAD.
TAKE IT THIS VIDEO NEVER REACHED THE BBC THEN
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October 19, 2005
Australian TV Says Shows Footage of Taliban Burning - Video
Australian television broadcast on Wednesday footage of what it said was U.S. soldiers burning two dead Taliban fighters as they faced Mecca and using the charred and smoking corpses in a propaganda campaign in southern Afghanistan

The television report said U.S. soldiers burned the bodies for hygienic reasons but then a U.S. psychological operations unit broadcast a propaganda message on loudspeakers to Taliban fighters, taunting them to retrieve their dead and fight.

In Washington, the U.S. Defense Department expressed concern over the report and promised that it would be "aggressively investigated."

"These are very serious allegations and, if true, very troublesome," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told Reuters.

"It is the policy of the United States, as well as the Defense Department, to treat all remains consistent with the Geneva Convention and with the utmost respect. These allegations will be aggressively investigated and, if proven to be true, the individuals will be held appropriately accountable," Whitman said.

The "Dateline" current affairs programme on the ethnic Special Broadcasting Service said the story was filmed in early October. The footage of the burning corpses was shot by Australian photojournalist Stephen DuPont who was embedded with a U.S. unit.

Dateline said the two Taliban fighters burned on hills above the village of Gondaz north of Kandahar were killed by the U.S. soldiers the night before.

The footage showed flames licking two charred corpses, their legs and arms outstretched, and a group of five U.S. soldiers standing watching from a rocky ledge.

Footage showed two U.S. soldiers reading two messages from a notebook that they said had earlier been broadcast.

"Attention Taliban you are cowardly dogs," read the first soldier, identified as psyops specialist Sgt. Jim Baker.

"You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burned. You are too scared to retrieve their bodies. This just proves you are the lady boys we always believed you to be."

The other unidentified soldier read a second message, part of which said: "You attack and run away like women. You call yourself Talibs but you are a disgrace to the Muslim religion, and you bring shame upon your family. Come and fight like men instead of the cowardly dogs you are."

**gun ainm** · 25-09-06, 10:23

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They are not a violent religion though!!!
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wtf has this got to do with islam? you might as well say the torture at abu ghraib means all christians are (or have the potential to be) torturers

**Lix** · 25-09-06, 14:21

I'm by no means any kind of expert, but from various reports I've heard about or read it seems there is a lot of seriously horrific stuff going on in Iraq - from both sides.

Then again, when is war every pretty?
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23-09-06, 15:38	#1
Hoodo Baby Radge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Burgh Posts: 17 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Is Osama Dead? [Only Registered Users Can See Links. Click Here To Register] I hope so, but only if he died of an illness.If the US got him etc. then he would be made even more of a martyr to the extremists.

23-09-06, 15:48	#2
Colr The Radge Doon the Road Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: London Age: 41 Posts: 21,457 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 38	Re: Is Osama Dead? Wathc that link. It caused a bit of a crash on my machine. __________________ There is a simple answer to every question..........and it's wrong. Einstein

23-09-06, 15:52	#3
Hoodo Baby Radge Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: The Burgh Posts: 17 vCash: 500 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts Rep Power: 0	Re: Is Osama Dead? Here it is then - PARIS - President Jacques Chirac said Saturday that information contained in a leaked intelligence document raising the possibility that Osama bin Laden may have died of typhoid in Pakistan last month is “in no way whatsoever confirmed.” Chirac said he was “a bit surprised” at the leak and has asked Defense Minister Michele Alliot-Marie to probe how a document from a French foreign intelligence service was published in the French press. The regional newspaper l’Est Republicain on Saturday printed what it described as a copy of a confidential document from the DGSE intelligence service citing an uncorroborated report from Saudi secret services that the leader of the al-Qaida terror network had died. The DGSE transmitted the document, dated Sept. 21 or Thursday, to Chirac and other top French officials, the newspaper said. “This information is in no way whatsoever confirmed,” Chirac said Saturday when asked about the document. “I have no comment.” In Washington, CIA duty officer Paul Gimigliano said he could not confirm the DGSE report. The Washington-based IntelCenter, which monitors terrorism communications, said it was not aware of any similar reports on the Internet. “We’ve seen nothing from any al-Qaida messaging or other indicators that would point to the death of Osama bin Laden,” IntelCenter director Ben N. Venzke told The Associated Press. Last date known is June 29 Al-Qaida would likely release information of his death fairly quickly if it were true, said Venzke, whose organization also provides counterterrorism intelligence services for the American government. “They would want to release that to sort of control the way that it unfolds. If they wait too long, they could lose the initiative on it,” he said. The last time the IntelCenter says it could be sure bin Laden was alive was June 29, when al-Qaida released an audiotape in which the terror leader eulogized the death of al-Qaida in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, who was killed in a U.S. airstrike in Iraq earlier that month. Chirac spoke at a news conference with Russian President Vladimir Putin and German Chancellor Angela Merkel in Compiegne, France, where the leaders were holding a summit. Putin suggested that leaks can be ways to manipulate. “When there are leaks ... one can say that (they) were done especially.” Earlier the French defense ministry said it was opening an investigation into the leak. “The information diffused this morning by the l’Est Republicain newspaper concerning the possible death of Osama bin Laden cannot be confirmed,” a Defense Ministry statement said. The DGSE, or Direction Generale des Services Exterieurs, indicated that its information came from a single source. “According to a reliable source, Saudi security services are now convinced that Osama bin Laden is dead,” said the intelligence report. There have been periodic reports of bin Laden’s illness or death in recent years but none has been proven accurate. According to this report, Saudi security services were pursuing further details, notably the place of his burial. “The chief of al-Qaida was a victim of a severe typhoid crisis while in Pakistan on August 23, 2006,” the document says. His geographic isolation meant that medical assistance was impossible, the French report said, adding that his lower limbs were allegedly paralyzed. The report further said Saudi security services had their first information on bin Laden’s alleged death on Sept. 4. In Pakistan, a senior official of that country’s top spy agency, the ISI or Directorate of Inter-Service Intelligence, said he had no information to confirm bin Laden’s whereabouts or that he might be dead. The official said he believed the report could be fabricated. The official was not authorized to speak publicly on the topic and spoke on condition of anonymity. U.S. Embassy officials in Pakistan and Afghanistan also said they could not confirm the French report. Gen. Henri Bentegeat, the French army chief of staff, said in a radio debate last Sunday that bin Laden’s fate remained a mystery. “Today, bin Laden is certainly not in Afghanistan,” Bentegeat said. “No one is completely certain that he is even alive.”

24-09-06, 10:45	#7
tortohibee Radge Private Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 2 minutes from cringability Age: 31 Posts: 1,474 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Is Osama Dead? on a similar line did anyone hear about the us soldiers being mutilated in iraq. the video is horrendous and i aint posting the link as it is grusome. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. feckin savages Mujahideen Shura Council Release Video showing the Burning of 2 US Soldiers Saturday, September 23 2006 Terrorist Group Mujahideen Shura Council released a video titled In Member of the Sunnah of Our Ancestors in Mutilating the Infidels. The video shows two US soldiers being mutilaed by the insurgency group in Iraq. According to Mujahideen Shura Council, the two soldiers, Pfc. Thomas L T, 25, and Pfc. Kristian M, 23,were part of the brigade that raped and burned Abeer Qassim al-Janabi, and killed her family in al-Mahmoudiya back in June 2006. They were also the same soldiers that were shown in a video that was released on July 10th 2006 with their bodies already mutilated. This video contains more footage of them being tied to a truck and then dragged for a few minutes before then being set on fire and burned. Note: the above information could not be verified by our staff __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. tombliboos tombliboos knock on the door ---------------------------------------------

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tortohibee Radge Private Member Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: 2 minutes from cringability Age: 31 Posts: 1,474 vCash: 500 My Mood: Thanks: 10 Thanked 13 Times in 8 Posts Rep Power: 4	Re: Is Osama Dead? MIND YOU THE AMERICANS ARE JUST AS BAD. TAKE IT THIS VIDEO NEVER REACHED THE BBC THEN To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in this forum your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. October 19, 2005 Australian TV Says Shows Footage of Taliban Burning - Video Australian television broadcast on Wednesday footage of what it said was U.S. soldiers burning two dead Taliban fighters as they faced Mecca and using the charred and smoking corpses in a propaganda campaign in southern Afghanistan The television report said U.S. soldiers burned the bodies for hygienic reasons but then a U.S. psychological operations unit broadcast a propaganda message on loudspeakers to Taliban fighters, taunting them to retrieve their dead and fight. In Washington, the U.S. Defense Department expressed concern over the report and promised that it would be "aggressively investigated." "These are very serious allegations and, if true, very troublesome," Pentagon spokesman Bryan Whitman told Reuters. "It is the policy of the United States, as well as the Defense Department, to treat all remains consistent with the Geneva Convention and with the utmost respect. These allegations will be aggressively investigated and, if proven to be true, the individuals will be held appropriately accountable," Whitman said. The "Dateline" current affairs programme on the ethnic Special Broadcasting Service said the story was filmed in early October. The footage of the burning corpses was shot by Australian photojournalist Stephen DuPont who was embedded with a U.S. unit. Dateline said the two Taliban fighters burned on hills above the village of Gondaz north of Kandahar were killed by the U.S. soldiers the night before. The footage showed flames licking two charred corpses, their legs and arms outstretched, and a group of five U.S. soldiers standing watching from a rocky ledge. Footage showed two U.S. soldiers reading two messages from a notebook that they said had earlier been broadcast. "Attention Taliban you are cowardly dogs," read the first soldier, identified as psyops specialist Sgt. Jim Baker. "You allowed your fighters to be laid down facing west and burned. You are too scared to retrieve their bodies. This just proves you are the lady boys we always believed you to be." The other unidentified soldier read a second message, part of which said: "You attack and run away like women. You call yourself Talibs but you are a disgrace to the Muslim religion, and you bring shame upon your family. Come and fight like men instead of the cowardly dogs you are." __________________ To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 5 or greater. You currently have 0 posts. tombliboos tombliboos knock on the door ---------------------------------------------

25-09-06, 14:21	#11
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