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**PILTONSTANY** · 14-05-06, 23:28

For an independent Scotland with elections held if there was a majority yes vote.How would you vote?

**JamieHibby** · 14-05-06, 23:32

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**Daddy'O'Hibee** · 14-05-06, 23:33

Freedom, sorry watching Braveheart, Independence, father was well into and involved with the the SNP. I used to torment him cause i was a wee stupid socialist, how things change.

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**roorky** · 14-05-06, 23:38

Id like to TRY independence?
i dont think wel have the chance to test drive independence. Once the decision is made thats it i would think.

**PILTONSTANY** · 14-05-06, 23:43

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Originally Posted by roorky

Id like to TRY independence?
i dont think wel have the chance to test drive independence. Once the decision is made thats it i would think.

If it goes tits up we can just invade England and start the UK again
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**roorky** · 14-05-06, 23:58

hehe

I think devolution is not a leading us to independence but more of a step towards us being part of the United States of Europe.

Craig K · 15-05-06, 00:11

voted yes but, to be honest, it would depend on what form our new govnt would take.

Smurf · 15-05-06, 00:27

It would be 40% for and 60% against, i reckon, nationwide.

CadgeMac · 15-05-06, 07:53

definately for it but seen as im 17 I wouldnt be able to vote

TattooedHibee · 15-05-06, 08:18

I see this thread was started when Braveheart was on.
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Voted a strong yes.

**Northern Ireland Hibby** · 15-05-06, 09:10

Go on - vote yes.

It would really give the NI politicians a kick up the arse!

Colr · 15-05-06, 09:25

I don't expect I would be asked.

Colr · 15-05-06, 09:26

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Originally Posted by roorky

Id like to TRY independence?
i dont think wel have the chance to test drive independence. Once the decision is made thats it i would think.

Like a trial seperation - and as dumb?

Smurf · 15-05-06, 12:00

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Originally Posted by Colr

Like a trial seperation - and as dumb?

A bit like trying to put a scrambled egg back in its shell..

**roorky** · 15-05-06, 14:33

colr do you mean Scotland becoming independant would be a dumb move?
ive heard arguments from both sides one claiming it would be financial suicide for us and the others saying the opposite and that we would be better off.
im no financial wizard by any means but i done a little bit of googling on this a while ago and i found that Scotlands population % of the UK and the money spent % was very close ( within 0.5% IIRC ), indicating that infact we may not be any worse or better off. as i say im not too clued up on this and my research was very crude and quickly done so not sure how accurate it is , but it does make intrested to hear what a neutral expert would say about the situation.

HenryLB · 15-05-06, 14:49

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Originally Posted by roorky

colr do you mean Scotland becoming independant would be a dumb move?
ive heard arguments from both sides one claiming it would be financial suicide for us and the others saying the opposite and that we would be better off.
im no financial wizard by any means but i done a little bit of googling on this a while ago and i found that Scotlands population % of the UK and the money spent % was very close ( within 0.5% IIRC ), indicating that infact we may not be any worse or better off. as i say im not too clued up on this and my research was very crude and quickly done so not sure how accurate it is , but it does make intrested to hear what a neutral expert would say about the situation.

The financial aspect isn't, as far as I can see, the driving factor though. You have to have a reason beyond just money for being independent, and then work out if it's financially viable afterwards. Otherwise London or the south east could make itself independent and tell everyone else in the UK to feck off, just because they felt like it (I know, I know, they already do etc).

That doesn't make your question any less valid. And I'm afraid I find myself equally as confused as you. DK will tell you he has a zillion calculations that prove Scotland is the next economic powerhouse - and he may well be right - whereas others will point to the large and inefficient public sector, the end of manufacturing, the fragility of the financial services market etc etc, and come out with a totally different picture. I simply haven't a clue who is correct. But I'm not sure it matters that much. You have to decide why you want to be independent, and if you want to be, before you go into the viability with any seriousness.

Colr · 15-05-06, 14:56

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Originally Posted by roorky

colr do you mean Scotland becoming independant would be a dumb move?
ive heard arguments from both sides one claiming it would be financial suicide for us and the others saying the opposite and that we would be better off.
im no financial wizard by any means but i done a little bit of googling on this a while ago and i found that Scotlands population % of the UK and the money spent % was very close ( within 0.5% IIRC ), indicating that infact we may not be any worse or better off. as i say im not too clued up on this and my research was very crude and quickly done so not sure how accurate it is , but it does make intrested to hear what a neutral expert would say about the situation.

It might be - it depends what you do with it!!! Actually, I meant the idea of a trial seperation was a dumb idea - as it is in relationships IMO.

Jury's out on the finances.

alkie · 15-05-06, 15:09

I'd want independecne but i wouldnt be old enough to vote!

HenryLB · 15-05-06, 15:19

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identity, you can't price that, hence the reason you may have missed that out
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I didn't miss anything out. It's up to you to find reasons for independence, not me. If you think you've got them, and can convince your fellow Scots, then blow the whistle, run up the saltire and get on with it. I care hardly a jot either way I'm afraid. Naturally being fixated upon nothing but raw cash I'm too busy buying munitions shares and profiting from third world debt to think about anything except my third swimming pool.

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No, that's not what I've got. What I've got is a massive spreadsheet breaking down the assets of the uk government in 2002. That shows a relative underspend in terms of assets located in Scotland, compared to the Scottish tax take, explicable for various reasons, one I believe to be preference and prejudice.

Okay. Presumably you do have some opinion on Scotland's economic future as an independent nation though?

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Your other caveats are valid. I believe it possible, under a mature economically conservative regime, with radcial fringes
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You're probably right. You certainly know a lot more about it than me. I just wonder whether you'd be able to get the mature economically conservative regime.

Colr · 15-05-06, 17:31

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Originally Posted by D.K

Why dumb, it's an astute move. Either you get back, or get used to being apart.
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You couldn't put it back together.

**Tully** · 15-05-06, 17:40

yes

Proclaimers · 15-05-06, 19:27

81% in favour.

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