William Wallace Street

[7 Hills]

Anybody else see this "street sign" stuck up on the corner of the Balmoral Hotel this morning? Fcukin' brilliant!
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[Bartok]

I think it UTTERLY DISGRACEFUL that Scotland fails to honour its greatest hero and now world-famous patriot. The Wallace Monument was built in Victorian times and whilst it does a job of sorts it remains virtually the only attempt to honour the man who took up the cause of Scotland's freedom when the senior nobility were unable to do so. The only other two items I am aware of are the statue at the gates of Edinburgh Castle and that bloody awful statue of Mel Gibson that somebody carved :-D . Recent attempts to portray him as a glorified bandit don't wash with me, this guy was the real goods. We should have a street named after him in every town. In America he would be a household name, and it's significant that it took a Hollywood movie to do publicity for him in Scotland. Wake up Scotland, and honour your greatest son.

[ECKtheHIBEE]

Ive read alot about william wallace, as an ancestor of mine who shares the same name as me was a keen follower and friend of wallace, the only thing that gets to me is how one one hand he is classed as a hero, and on the other he is made out to be a theif and a barbarian, william wallace fought for scotland, and in my eyes that makes him a hero.

He was also a skilled military techinician, he wasnt the underdog he was made out to be in braveheart, although it did make a better story!

[Wolfetone Hibee]

He should get more recognition for his patriotism most definitely, even if his military talents were distinctly average and his only major victory was an ambush. Still a Legend and should be remembered as such.
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[SkyeHibs]

Originally Posted by Wolfetone Hibee

He should get more recognition for his patriotism most definitely, even if his military talents were distinctly average and his only major victory was an ambush. Still a Legend and should be remembered as such.
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You have got to be joking. His military talents were a key strength and as for describing Stirling Bridge as an ambush which I assume is what you are reffering to that was simply not the case.

[SkyeHibs]

Originally Posted by Dixie Chicken

I think it UTTERLY DISGRACEFUL that Scotland fails to honour its greatest hero and now world-famous patriot. The Wallace Monument was built in Victorian times and whilst it does a job of sorts it remains virtually the only attempt to honour the man who took up the cause of Scotland's freedom when the senior nobility were unable to do so. The only other two items I am aware of are the statue at the gates of Edinburgh Castle and that bloody awful statue of Mel Gibson that somebody carved :-D . Recent attempts to portray him as a glorified bandit don't wash with me, this guy was the real goods. We should have a street named after him in every town. In America he would be a household name, and it's significant that it took a Hollywood movie to do publicity for him in Scotland. Wake up Scotland, and honour your greatest son.

Glad to say there is a statue in Lanark Colin and a memorial at the site of his house in the town. I wasn't in Lanark at the weekend but from reports there were about 5000 people here at the festivities at the weekend.

[Wolfetone Hibee]

Originally Posted by LanarkHibs

You have got to be joking. His military talents were a key strength and as for describing Stirling Bridge as an ambush which I assume is what you are reffering to that was simply not the case.

2 major engagements, one victory through attacking hugh de cressingham and co when they hadn't deployed properly, and 1 standard pitched battle in which he was utterly defeated. by no means inept but no super soldier either IMHO
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[SkyeHibs]

Originally Posted by Wolfetone Hibee

2 major engagements, one victory through attacking hugh de cressingham and co when they hadn't deployed properly, and 1 standard pitched battle in which he was utterly defeated. by no means inept but no super soldier either IMHO
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As you well know there were issues at Falkirk the key one being the lack of horse as a result of the nobles in many cases not rallying to the call. Even so many historians refer to the battle of Falkirk being far from conclussive.

As for the English not having deployed properly that comes down to the tactical abilities off Wallace and Murray I might add who had considerable influence on the battle.

[Lix]

Just saw a load of scots in kilts and with saltires walking along Great Tower Street by my work.

Asked them what it was for and they were 'Walking for Wallace'.
Off to the site in Smithfields where he was murdered.
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[Wolfetone Hibee]

As for the English not having deployed properly that comes down to the tactical abilities off Wallace and Murray I might add who had considerable influence on the battle.[/quote]


Over confidence and Contempt for their "lowly" Scottish enemies played just as big a part in the English defeat/ Scottish victory at Stirling Bridge, though i'm sure you'll agree mate, if Moray had survived until Falkirk things might have been very different in 1298.

[SkyeHibs]

Originally Posted by Wolfetone Hibee

if Moray had survived until Falkirk things might have been very different in 1298.

He was a huge loss and is not given the credit he deserves. |Little is made of the fact that they were made joint guardians of Scotland

[Bridie]

Originally Posted by Dixie Chicken

I think it UTTERLY DISGRACEFUL that Scotland fails to honour its greatest hero and now world-famous patriot.

We should have a street named after him in every town.

I would back that 100%.
Well said Colin.

[egb_hibs]

Originally Posted by Dixie Chicken

I think it UTTERLY DISGRACEFUL that Scotland fails to honour its greatest hero and now world-famous patriot. The Wallace Monument was built in Victorian times and whilst it does a job of sorts it remains virtually the only attempt to honour the man who took up the cause of Scotland's freedom when the senior nobility were unable to do so. The only other two items I am aware of are the statue at the gates of Edinburgh Castle and that bloody awful statue of Mel Gibson that somebody carved :-D . Recent attempts to portray him as a glorified bandit don't wash with me, this guy was the real goods. We should have a street named after him in every town. In America he would be a household name, and it's significant that it took a Hollywood movie to do publicity for him in Scotland. Wake up Scotland, and honour your greatest son.

I'm guessing that this might be to do with:

a) scotland's identity problems - see the west of scotland particularly

b) the unfashionability of celebrating symbols of military nationalism, especially amongst the type of thinkers who are in govt in scotland

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Dixie Chicken

In America he would be a household name, and it's significant that it took a Hollywood movie to do publicity for him in Scotland. Wake up Scotland, and honour your greatest son.

You can hardly say he's not a household name, even pre-Pishheart. As for street names, wonder how many of these are "his" ?

Wallace Avenue, Bishopton, Renfrewshire, PA7

Wallace Avenue, Buckie, Banffshire, AB56

Wallace Avenue, Dundonald, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, KA2

Wallace Avenue, Elderslie, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, PA5

Wallace Avenue, Rothesay, Isle Of Bute, PA20

Wallace Avenue, St. Andrews, Fife, KY16

Wallace Avenue, Stevenston, Ayrshire, KA20

Wallace Avenue, Troon, Ayrshire, KA10

Wallace Brae Court, Brightons, Falkirk, FK2

Wallace Brae Drive, Brightons, Falkirk, FK2

Wallace Brae Rise, Brightons, Falkirk, FK2

Wallace Court, Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, FK3

Wallace Court, Hawick, Roxburghshire, TD9

Wallace Court, Hurlford, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, KA1

Wallace Court, Lochmaben, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire, DG11

Wallace Court, Prestwick, Ayrshire, KA9

Wallace Crescent, Annan, Dumfriesshire, DG12

Wallace Crescent, Brightons, Falkirk, FK2

Wallace Crescent, Denny, Stirlingshire, FK6

Wallace Crescent, Perth, PH1

Wallace Crescent, Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, AB42

Wallace Crescent, Plean, Stirling, FK7

Wallace Crescent, Roslin, Midlothian, EH25

Wallace Crescent, Turriff, Aberdeenshire, AB53

Wallace Drive, Larkhall, Lanarkshire, ML9

Wallace Drive, Lochmaben, Lockerbie, Dumfriesshire, DG11

Wallace Gait, Perth, PH1

Wallace Gardens, Stirling, FK9

Wallace Gardens, Torrance, Glasgow, G_64

Wallace Lane, Turriff, Aberdeenshire, AB53

Wallace Mill Gardens, Mid Calder, Livingston, West Lothian, EH53

Wallace Place, Blantyre, Glasgow, G_72

Wallace Place, Cambusbarron, Stirling, FK7

Wallace Place, Culloden, Inverness, IV2

Wallace Place, Falkirk, FK2

Wallace Place, Fallin, Stirling, FK7

Wallace Place, Fort William, Inverness-Shire, PH33

Wallace Place, Greenock, Renfrewshire, PA15

Wallace Place, Hamilton, Lanarkshire, ML3

Wallace Place, Kingseat, Dunfermline, Fife, KY12

Wallace Place, Kirkmuirhill, Lanark, ML11

Wallace Place, Longforgan, Dundee, DD2

Wallace Place, Minnigaff, Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire, DG8

Wallace Place, Perth, PH1

Wallace Place, Tranent, East Lothian, EH33

Wallace Road, Bathgate, West Lothian, EH48

Wallace Road, Dalbeattie, Kirkcudbrightshire, DG5

Wallace Road, Dunblane, Perthshire, FK15

Wallace Road, Inverurie, Aberdeenshire, AB51

Wallace Road, Irvine, Ayrshire, KA12

Wallace Road, Renfrew, PA4

Wallace Road, Wemyss Bay, Renfrewshire, PA18

Wallace Street, Alloa, Clackmannanshire, FK10

Wallace Street, Arbroath, Angus, DD11

Wallace Street, Ardler, Blairgowrie, Perthshire, PH12

Wallace Street, Bannockburn, Stirling, FK7

Wallace Street, Carnoustie, Angus, DD7

Wallace Street, Coatbridge, Lanarkshire, ML5

Wallace Street, Cowdenbeath, Fife, KY4

Wallace Street, Creetown, Newton Stewart, Wigtownshire, DG8

Wallace Street, Dornoch, Sutherland, IV25

Wallace Street, Dumbarton, G_82

Wallace Street, Dumfries, DG1

Wallace Street, Dundee, DD4

Wallace Street, Dunfermline, Fife, KY11

Wallace Street, Falkirk, FK2

Wallace Street, Galston, Ayrshire, KA4

Wallace Street, Glasgow, G_5

Wallace Street, Grangemouth, Stirlingshire, FK3

Wallace Street, Greenock, Renfrewshire, PA16

Wallace Street, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, KA1

Wallace Street, Motherwell, Lanarkshire, ML1

Wallace Street, Paisley, Renfrewshire, PA3

Wallace Street, Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, AB42

Wallace Street, Plains, Airdrie, Lanarkshire, ML6

Wallace Street, Port Glasgow, Renfrewshire, PA14

Wallace Street, Rutherglen, Glasgow, G_73

Wallace Street, St. Andrews, Fife, KY16

Wallace Street, Stirling, FK8

Wallace Terrace, Barrhill, Girvan, Ayrshire, KA26

Wallace View, Bo'Ness, West Lothian, EH51

Wallace View, Kilmarnock, Ayrshire, KA1

Wallace View, Shieldhill, Falkirk, FK1

Wallace View, Tullibody, Alloa, Clackmannanshire, FK10

Wallace Walk, Stoneyburn, Bathgate, West Lothian, EH47

Wallace Way, Lanark, ML11

Wallace Way, Peterhead, Aberdeenshire, AB42

Wallace Wynd, Law, Carluke, Lanarkshire, ML8

Wallace Wynd, Stonehaven, Kincardineshire, AB39

[pilrig70]

Wallace was Scotland's great rebel hero. A guy who fought alongside the common people against the rich and powerful. He's still relevant cos we're still ruled by London - exactly what he fought against 700 years ago.

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Street signs were put up last night apparently.
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[Bartok]

Probably quite of few of those Brian, but I stand by my assertion that we still don't do enough to honour him. We should scrap St Andrews Day, which means nothing, and institute the anniversary of his death as a national holiday. Mark the day with a special annual event of some kind that people can participate in, such as the Wallace Walk someone above mentioned.


Agree with what has been said above too about Moray, it was disastrous that he died after the first battle.

[Brian]

Originally Posted by Dixie Chicken

Probably quite of few of those Brian, but I stand by my assertion that we still don't do enough to honour him. We should scrap St Andrews Day, which means nothing, and institute the anniversary of his death as a national holiday. Mark the day with a special annual event of some kind that people can participate in, such as the Wallace Walk someone above mentioned.

Aye, what use is a holiday we don't get at the end of November
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Now is the time for a summertime fiesta, how about the Willy Wally Swally ?
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[JamieHibby]

Originally Posted by Lix

Just saw a load of scots in kilts and with saltires walking along Great Tower Street by my work.

Asked them what it was for and they were 'Walking for Wallace'.
Off to the site in Smithfields where he was murdered.
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[pilrig70]

Street names are important. Thats why Scotland's biggest cities have premier streets like Princes Street, George Square and Union Street. Its just crude 18th Century Brit propaganda to let Scots of the time know they were 'British' in the aftermath of Culloden. Same reasons for the existence of so many statues of British muppets on Scottish streets. I mean William Pitt on Edinburgh's George Street? Queen Victoria in the Kirkgate?? The Duke of Wellington ootside Burger King?!? The Duke of friggin Sutherland in the Highlands???? Time for some JCBs to do their Saddam-esque best.

[1875]

Originally Posted by Dixie Chicken

I think it UTTERLY DISGRACEFUL that Scotland fails to honour its greatest hero and now world-famous patriot. The Wallace Monument was built in Victorian times and whilst it does a job of sorts it remains virtually the only attempt to honour the man who took up the cause of Scotland's freedom when the senior nobility were unable to do so. The only other two items I am aware of are the statue at the gates of Edinburgh Castle and that bloody awful statue of Mel Gibson that somebody carved :-D . Recent attempts to portray him as a glorified bandit don't wash with me, this guy was the real goods. We should have a street named after him in every town. In America he would be a household name, and it's significant that it took a Hollywood movie to do publicity for him in Scotland. Wake up Scotland, and honour your greatest son.

No quite true Colin, I have kept a 12 page supplement for this weekends Sunday Herald which lists oodles of Wallace based scottish places amongst some other great stuff, from Wallacestone Village in Falkirk to various abbey's stained glass, allowing wallace as teh only non saint in their windows. There is even a Wallace monument in Baltimore.

A free exhibition is currently being held at Stirling Smith Art Gallery and Museum until 2 October for those who wish to read the tales of the great mans' life and how he has been depicted down the centuries.

One that touched my heart was the Scot lifted in London for singing 'Scots Wha Hae' the day a plaque to Wallace was unveiled at Smithfield market for singing the 'seditious' song.
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[Bartok]

Originally Posted by 1875

No quite true Colin, I have kept a 12 page supplement for this weekends Sunday Herald which lists oodles of Wallace based scottish places amongst some other great stuff, from Wallacestone Village in Falkirk to various abbey's stained glass, allowing wallace as teh only non saint in their windows. There is even a Wallace monument in Baltimore.

A free exhibition is currently being held at Stirling Smith Art Gallery and Museum until 2 October for those who wish to read the tales of the great mans' life and how he has been depicted down the centuries.

One that touched my heart was the Scot lifted in London for singing 'Scots Wha Hae' the day a plaque to Wallace was unveiled at Smithfie