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I see now what your point is. Yes I agree, there aren't many liberals in the street, and liberals wouldn't like many of the reforms that would quickly be passed. Immigration bans, capital punishment, perhaps corporal punishment would all follow. But I wasn't really advocating the widening of democracy, only pointing out that western governments are anything but democratic.
Maybe... so why is democracy such a good thing then, when the results of its truest and simplest form are unacceptable? How can democrats claim the moral high ground by asserting that rule by consent and consultation is the way to go, and yet at the same time reject ultra-democracy as mob rule?
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well speaking for myself i have no qualms about prioritising liberalism over democracy.
real democracy would lurch between anarchy and fascism.