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Old 30-05-08, 20:19   #17
Bartok
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Re: League of democracies

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i think there's a substantial risk. unless you tightly controlled what things were made available to vote - which would defeat the point of what i think you're advocating - then i think you see the popular will manifested for what it is; and it sho' ain't liberal in many cases.
I see now what your point is. Yes I agree, there aren't many liberals in the street, and liberals wouldn't like many of the reforms that would quickly be passed. Immigration bans, capital punishment, perhaps corporal punishment would all follow. But I wasn't really advocating the widening of democracy, only pointing out that western governments are anything but democratic.
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quite a few thinkers from the ancients to the enlightenment sorts feared the appetites of t'mob did they not. i think what you're suggesting my lead to the realisation of those fears.
Maybe... so why is democracy such a good thing then, when the results of its truest and simplest form are unacceptable? How can democrats claim the moral high ground by asserting that rule by consent and consultation is the way to go, and yet at the same time reject ultra-democracy as mob rule?
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