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Old 25-04-08, 15:55   #13
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Re: Diamond Dan the Orangeman - This must be a joke

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It isn't such a light-hearted story in the north: tens of thousands of people up here belong to the OO, from harmless auld duffers to blinkered young bampots. It might be an objectionable organisation, but up here we need to find a way to live with them.

I respect your opinon in any case
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And I respect yours. I also respect your right and my right to debate about this on whatever section of the site we please, without having to look over our shoulders. I think that the whole point of having sections for the different geographical locations is to give an insight into what kind of people other hibs fans are and what their views are on things. So each section should reflect those views, opposing or otherwise, and not present an artificial, sugar-coated togetherness.

When I said light-hearted I can tell you for sure that I wasn’t referring to the Orange Order as a concept. What I meant was the original article. The whole tone of it is undoubtedly very light and was reacted to in the same way I think.

“Up there” and everywhere, of course all cultures have to be respected. But I do not accept that this means preserving all the offensive (and I really do believe that the OO would, objectively, be seen to be offensive in its stubbornness and its bigotry, no matter what corner of the world it existed in) elements of those cultures and elevating them to such an extent that they are beyond criticism. Respecting each other’s culture is about listening to reasonable criticism and, surely, open debate. Of course you have to find a way to live with each other. But the harmless auld duffers and the blinkered young bampots don’t get to march on oblivious.

The fact that an organisation has tens of thousands of members doesn’t lend it any credence. Look at the flippin Scientologists!

We'll have to agree to disagree (but on the Irish Hibs forum)
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