[sKipper]

Originally Posted by egb_hibs
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apologies for this - regulars will know my difficulty in keeping things simple.

i may try out portions of this post on a celtic board later, just for fun.

anyway - what is your position on irish nationalism? i'm guessing quite a few won't give a feck, but some will.

i consider myself a moderate irish nationalist. as a subject it concerns me very much less than things to do with scotland, but given my roots, perhaps more than most political questions outside caledonia.

by moderate irish nationalist i mean that i'd like to see ireland united and independent of the uk, but i believe this needs majorities in the north and in the whole of ireland to be legit.

i expect - though may be wrong (i won't be on a celtic board) - that others will see the nationalist claim as stronger, and not necessarily dependent on such consensus.

if you consider yourself in this camp, can i ask you in your reply to compare your view to whatever one you may hold - if you've thought about it at all - on kosovo.

i nurse a suspicision that the che guevera tims will favour a harder line on the claim of irish nationalism than moi, and yet take the muslim side in kosovo.

but why?

kosovo was historically part of greater serbia and it's muslim population are analagous - if imperfectly so - to the NI prod population. they are the product of an imperial power, and adaptation to it's mores. afaik they are native that were converted to the turks religion, rather than as in ireland, shipped over by their (approximate) co-religionists from neighbouring territory, but the dynamics are pretty close.

in both cases the end result is a majority in a subset of the historical nation, with different cultural attributes and loyalties that are the product of historical imperial subjugation.

and yet i suspect most would grant the kosovars autonomy by dint of their long settlement in the area and their majority within it. fine. but how can that be squared with denying the same rights to the descendants of the scottish plantationists in NI?

i may be barking up the wrong tree, but i do suspect that even if we don't get it here, i'd be able to cause consternation with our weegie friends with this question?

all and any comments on any of this ramble welcome;

from the basic question of your position on ireland, if it is assertive nationalism what's your take on the serb comparison, and if it isn't, any comments on my logic as a dry run before i take it to the sellick massive?

Kosovo doesn't have that many Muslims. The population is mainly Albanian and Serbian.